How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[ChicagoLion]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

Because they are desperate.

[Lastfootstamper]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

[aev]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

[pauliewalnuts]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

Which is utterly meaningless unless that's written into their contracts, which I bet you what you like it won't be, which is why the PL is squirming at the moment.

[LukeJames]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

I know next to nothing about this kind of thing but surely thats dependant on what was put in the original contract?

Of course though, fuck knows what was put in the contracts when they were signed.

[john2710]

There may be players who refuse to play & teams (Liverpool / Man City) who just field a weakened team.

[ChicagoLion]

Once you get a couple of players who don’t fancy ( and there are more than a couple) it and the PFA get involved
 A simple question, can you guarantee the safety of The players in relation to the Covid virus?
If the answer is anything but yes, then game over.

[aev]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

I know next to nothing about this kind of thing but surely thats dependant on what was put in the original contract?

Of course though, fuck knows what was put in the contracts when they were signed.

Sorry , I meant new contracts and wages. Mind you there could well be appearance/performance related elements to contracts?

[ChicagoLion]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

I know next to nothing about this kind of thing but surely thats dependant on what was put in the original contract?

Of course though, fuck knows what was put in the contracts when they were signed.

Sorry , I meant new contracts and wages. Mind you there could well be appearance/performance related elements to contracts?

of course there are appearance performance related elements in the existing contracts and has no bearing on this whatsoever.
So how are they going to force players into entering Into new contracts that enable them to be put at risk?

[aev]

The players don’t want to play, the players will not be insured.
The Government rules on social distancing will remain which means playing football is a non starter.
At some point they will wake up to this.

They will make exceptions for sport, otherwise why bother going through all this?

I'm pretty sure I saw someone mention serfdom earlier. The "for that much money a week they should be expected to..." argument will move from 'play three games in 8 days', to 'risk contracting a disease that could kill them or their loved ones'.

I think they will be told (subtlety of course) that their wages are dependant upon TV contracts.

I know next to nothing about this kind of thing but surely thats dependant on what was put in the original contract?

Of course though, fuck knows what was put in the contracts when they were signed.

Sorry , I meant new contracts and wages. Mind you there could well be appearance/performance related elements to contracts?

of course there are appearance performance related elements in the existing contracts and has no bearing on this whatsoever.
So how are they going to force players into entering Into new contracts that enable them to be put at risk?

Eh?

The point I am making is that if players refused to play, the assumption is clubs would lose out on revenues (this is why they are looking at trying to complete the season afterall).

It isn’t a great leap that to think if clubs have less money, they will pay less in wages going forward.

[pauliewalnuts]

You'd have things like massive amounts of testing of players at a time when no doubt the NHS will still be struggling to get enough tests. You'd have players engaging in close physical contact at a time we'd be telling people how important it is to keep distant.

So many little things like that that really make it obscene to be pushing the return of football as some sort of priority.

It is all so undignified, the entire fucking circus.

[aev]

You'd have things like massive amounts of testing of players at a time when no doubt the NHS will still be struggling to get enough tests. You'd have players engaging in close physical contact at a time we'd be telling people how important it is to keep distant.

So many little things like that that really make it obscene to be pushing the return of football as some sort of priority.

It is all so undignified, the entire fucking circus.

This reminds me a bit of the last Presidential election. For ages we all kept guffawing at his nonsense, and shuddering at his latest indiscretion. But he kept on gaining momentum, despite it being blindingly obvious to many he was nuts and completely ill suited to the task in hand.

It is an undignified circus, but we live in weird old times.

[ChicagoLion]

Rather than create a long thread, the players will have grounds to refuse, the clubs and the League will not have grounds to make them unless they can guarantee safety.
The financial position is precarious at best and I agree there will be a lot less money going forward.
If the clubs can not create a situation with the players which enables them to trade solvently then you will see Insolvency events across the game.

[Steve67]

I can't imagine for a moment that Purslow has agreed to give up the advantage of playing our home games at VP? That would be sheer lunacy.  The only way I can see that happening is if we have already pulled off a deal relating to no relegation, or doing away with FFP if and when we do drop. 

[aev]

Looks like Brighton’s chairman has stuck his head above the parapet.

And next idea touted is playing the games in Perth (the warm one).