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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 892702 times)

Offline OzVilla

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2820 on: April 28, 2020, 12:49:11 AM »
Genuine question. What happens if someone tests positive considering the whole league got shut down when the Arsenal manager and a Chelsea squad player tested positive on the same day, will the same rules apply it is this simply a plough on regardless scenario?

Furthermore, what if some divisions get concluded (say the Championship) and some don’t (say the PL)?


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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2821 on: April 28, 2020, 01:17:39 AM »

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you giving it the billy big bollocks to OMVF about how much more than him you know
Because he works in construction.  How much do you think he knows about contract law?  He even suggested injuncting the PL FFS.  Have you any idea how much it would cost a club if the application failed?

If you haven't been banned due to your condescending attitude and obnoxious behaviour, I thought I would enlighten you to the fact that some in my industry know a considerable amount about contract law.  Do you think construction is carried out without contracts.  I have been involved in two major international civil court cases involving wrongful termination of contract, preparing witness statements for giving testimony in both cases.  In one of those, we successfully obtained an injunction to prevent a developer client claiming our on demand performance bond and advance payment bond, something that is extremely difficult to do.  I have been involved in a bankruptcy case against the same client.  I have also been involved in an international construction arbitration.  So yes, I do know something about contract law in relation to construction, the basic principles of which are the same as for other contracts.

 

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2822 on: April 28, 2020, 05:33:21 AM »
Germany discussing no relegation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/27/bundesliga-clubs-debate-whether-relegation-should-scrapped-even/
Well if clubs know prior to restart that there is no relegation than there is no competitive integrity.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2823 on: April 28, 2020, 06:53:58 AM »
Amongst the insanity of four clubs returning to training (which I assume is an essential job?), I heard a guy called Scott Duxbury this morning, the CEO at Watford.

What a breath of fresh air!

Basically, said he felt very uneasy even talking about starting football with so many dying every day and the stress the NHS is under. Of couse he wanted to get going, but only when the government said it was completely safe to do so.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2824 on: April 28, 2020, 07:50:25 AM »
We had just two cases in our state today and the premier is still saying no school and stay indoors, he is deadly worried that we may have a second stage, so I don't understand with the death rate being that high in UK how anyone could think of restarting football even behind closed doors.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2825 on: April 28, 2020, 08:07:08 AM »
Genuine question. What happens if someone tests positive considering the whole league got shut down when the Arsenal manager and a Chelsea squad player tested positive on the same day, will the same rules apply it is this simply a plough on regardless scenario?

Furthermore, what if some divisions get concluded (say the Championship) and some don’t (say the PL)?


An inference from the German restart plan is that they'll plough on regardless, as everybody involved is in a collective isolation from society.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2020, 08:08:56 AM by Lastfootstamper »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2826 on: April 28, 2020, 08:16:35 AM »
Amongst the insanity of four clubs returning to training (which I assume is an essential job?), I heard a guy called Scott Duxbury this morning, the CEO at Watford.

What a breath of fresh air!

Basically, said he felt very uneasy even talking about starting football with so many dying every day and the stress the NHS is under. Of couse he wanted to get going, but only when the government said it was completely safe to do so.


That's not necessary to work in the UK lockdown.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2827 on: April 28, 2020, 08:18:52 AM »
I can't see any of the businesses (clubs) who are at risk of being relegated agreeing to anything other than completing the season as normal, i.e no behind closed doors games, no neutral venues etc;.
Why would you give your competitors an advantage by agreeing to unequal playing terms, when there is so much money at stake?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2828 on: April 28, 2020, 08:26:11 AM »
Hancock just said that it is worth exploring the resumption of some sports, but refused to be drawn on dates.

When asked about how this would work with social distancing, he suggested this could be done in the dressing room, but that it presented challenges during the game...

I wonder what advice the PFA will provide in all of this?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2829 on: April 28, 2020, 08:51:58 AM »
For teams threatened with relegation some of the ideas I’ve seen floated in the media would make things more uneven.
In our case we have limited options off the bench, nothing like the quality the top teams can call on. So playing these fixtures in a shortened time frame, possibly allowing up to 5 substitutions, would be very challenging for us. I still can’t see how playing at a neutral ground and losing the possible benefit of our extra home games is fair either. I can’t see any of the relegation threatened teams going along with this.  So that could be 6 no votes, wouldn’t it only need another no vote to vote down proposals?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2830 on: April 28, 2020, 08:55:21 AM »
surely, if social distancing measures are still in place come early June - the time mooted for a return of football - you simply can't play?

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2831 on: April 28, 2020, 08:58:06 AM »
It's interesting to note that Wimbledon have been paying pandemic insurance premiums since 2003 and are due a payout, not enough to cover all their losses but enough. They have sensibly done as much as they can to protect their event.
What about the PL? Why haven't they done someth£ng s£m£lar to protect the£r event over the last 17 years?
Imo they should accept their losses (like they accepted the decision to avoid paying pandemic insurance premiums), void this season and instead start to plan next season and following seasons better with contingency plans in place in case of emergencies.
This may mean a reprieve for Norwich and any 2 from Watford, West Ham and Bournemouth (I think we would have just done enough at the time, under normal circumstances, to have escaped relegation), but voiding is the right thing to do when there have been so many deaths to date due to covid-19 and sadly more yet to come.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2832 on: April 28, 2020, 09:13:08 AM »
Even in May and June we'll be admitting new cases to hospital and burning through more than a million bits of PPE a day - will that and testing be at a level to support sports? I'm not so sure. Also, it would be a bit harsh on all the other hospitality businesses who aren't allowed to bend the rules on social distancing and are going out of business. However, I'm sure £££ will win.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2833 on: April 28, 2020, 09:24:33 AM »
surely, if social distancing measures are still in place come early June - the time mooted for a return of football - you simply can't play?
I agree it's as simple as that really. For me there are 2 options. Finish the season only when social distancing has been lifted. No empty stadiums and no restrictions on players. Or scrap this season and hope for the next season to go ahead normally ASAP. 

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2834 on: April 28, 2020, 09:26:27 AM »
The government obviously believes that social distancing rules will be relaxed by June, surely?
I mean, it’s not like people will congregate at each other houses to watch is it?
Or better still, lock ins down the local or at private clubs.

 


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