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Online paul_e

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2520 on: April 23, 2020, 03:57:12 PM »
The posts are becoming ridiculous. Void the PL but give placings in the Championship in order to promote Leeds?

Mid table sides obviously have massive incentives financially to finish the season. They stand to lose millions in sponsorship and advertising deals, notwithstanding any tv money. Also there is prize money based on league placing.

Paul e.  Your stance is almost the same as mine.  However, if we were 10th, having played the season in a style that we associate to DS, do you think we’d have such an overwhelming clamour on here to void the session?  Or do you think the majority would hope for the opportunity to watch the team play 10 more games on live tv?

I think we both know the answer.

I don't know, personally I'd apply the same reasoning as I am doing now, in fact I think the only way I'd disagree is if we'd 'done a Leicester' and snuck into the top 4 completely unexpectedly but even then deep down I'd know I was being selfish.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2521 on: April 23, 2020, 04:18:29 PM »
Your stance is the same as mine, ie if it can be played out safely then do it.

However, the majority are claiming that voiding the season is the only option.  My point is that they wouldn’t be stating that if our position was better.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2522 on: April 23, 2020, 04:21:15 PM »
Your stance is the same as mine, ie if it can be played out safely then do it.

However, the majority are claiming that voiding the season is the only option.  My point is that they wouldn’t be stating that if our position was better.

But you don't know that, so why bother going on about it? It's only going to wind people up. Telling people what they're thinking and why is not the way to make friends and influence people.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2523 on: April 23, 2020, 04:23:45 PM »
I do know it.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2524 on: April 23, 2020, 04:40:59 PM »
Lots of people don't want to see a competition completed when the variables have been dramatically altered with a quarter of the season left to play, and yes, lots of people don't want to see Villa relegated.

I'm struggling to work out exactly what you want. Would seeing football matches played in empty stadiums really represent a return to 'normality' for you? If anything it would make the whole situation more surreal for me, and add even less authenticity to the idea that the remaining games were part of the same season.

I also think you should stop being so hostile to your fellow posters. Cynically questioning the motives of others, who have nothing to feel bad about even if all they want is the best outcome for Villa, isn't a good look.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2525 on: April 23, 2020, 04:41:31 PM »
Integrity is important. If the competition is not the same in the last quarter as it was in the first three quarters  the ingerity is eroded.

We either play again and that's with fans or we void the league. We won't be playing again till the winter with supporters, so void the league it is.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2526 on: April 23, 2020, 04:47:42 PM »
Integrity is important. If the competition is not the same in the last quarter as it was in the first three quarters  the ingerity is eroded.

We either play again and that's with fans or we void the league. We won't be playing again till the winter with supporters, so void the league it is.

I agree. An over-simplification, I know, but if a 100m sprint was interrupted after 75m by a fat bloke crossing the track to get a pie, they wouldn't stop the race, then start again from exactly the same place and ask the runners to evade the fat bloke. They'd wait until such a time that the fat bloke was no longer an obstacle, return to the beginning and start again. Due to the arduous nature of re-starting a 38-game season, many people feel that isn't an option and the fairest choice is to scrap it and start afresh whenever we can.

I agree that those whose livelihoods depend on football should be supported the same as everyone else. But my brother, who works at Villa, has been told that if the season resumes behind closed doors, he won't be required, and therefore won't be paid.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2020, 04:53:27 PM by Rory Christopher »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2527 on: April 23, 2020, 04:49:15 PM »
I do know it.

Now I know what you mean about posts becoming ridiculous.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2528 on: April 23, 2020, 04:50:10 PM »
I do know it.


A bit less hostility, please.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2529 on: April 23, 2020, 05:05:11 PM »
Lots of people don't want to see a competition completed when the variables have been dramatically altered with a quarter of the season left to play, and yes, lots of people don't want to see Villa relegated.

I'm struggling to work out exactly what you want. Would seeing football matches played in empty stadiums really represent a return to 'normality' for you? If anything it would make the whole situation more surreal for me, and add even less authenticity to the idea that the remaining games were part of the same season.

I also think you should stop being so hostile to your fellow posters. Cynically questioning the motives of others, who have nothing to feel bad about even if all they want is the best outcome for Villa, isn't a good look.

I want the season voided - Or any other solution that guarantees Villa staying up.  I really don't care.  I don't care about integrity, I don't care about Liverpool, I don't care about Europe etc, etc.

I am not hostile to other posters, neither have I pointed the finger at anyone.  You have a few genuine people at every club who put the morals first, then you have a few drama queens and then finally, you have a few who are that blinkered, they might not even realise that there are other valid options.  I have my own opinions on who is who but I keep them to myself.  If I broadcast them, perhaps that would be deemed hostile.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2530 on: April 23, 2020, 05:06:40 PM »
I do know it.

Now I know what you mean about posts becoming ridiculous.

You only have to look at the comments from fans of other teams Drummond - It's not rocket science. 

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2531 on: April 23, 2020, 05:26:29 PM »
Lots of people don't want to see a competition completed when the variables have been dramatically altered with a quarter of the season left to play, and yes, lots of people don't want to see Villa relegated.

I'm struggling to work out exactly what you want. Would seeing football matches played in empty stadiums really represent a return to 'normality' for you? If anything it would make the whole situation more surreal for me, and add even less authenticity to the idea that the remaining games were part of the same season.

I also think you should stop being so hostile to your fellow posters. Cynically questioning the motives of others, who have nothing to feel bad about even if all they want is the best outcome for Villa, isn't a good look.

I want the season voided - Or any other solution that guarantees Villa staying up.  I really don't care.  I don't care about integrity, I don't care about Liverpool, I don't care about Europe etc, etc.

I am not hostile to other posters, neither have I pointed the finger at anyone.  You have a few genuine people at every club who put the morals first, then you have a few drama queens and then finally, you have a few who are that blinkered, they might not even realise that there are other valid options.  I have my own opinions on who is who but I keep them to myself.  If I broadcast them, perhaps that would be deemed hostile.
Agreed.  Either we have the highest moral values of pretty much any football forum I've seen, or a lot of people's views are more influenced by our own plight than perhaps they realise.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2532 on: April 23, 2020, 05:47:48 PM »
Lots of people don't want to see a competition completed when the variables have been dramatically altered with a quarter of the season left to play, and yes, lots of people don't want to see Villa relegated.

I'm struggling to work out exactly what you want. Would seeing football matches played in empty stadiums really represent a return to 'normality' for you? If anything it would make the whole situation more surreal for me, and add even less authenticity to the idea that the remaining games were part of the same season.

I also think you should stop being so hostile to your fellow posters. Cynically questioning the motives of others, who have nothing to feel bad about even if all they want is the best outcome for Villa, isn't a good look.

I want the season voided - Or any other solution that guarantees Villa staying up.  I really don't care.  I don't care about integrity, I don't care about Liverpool, I don't care about Europe etc, etc.

I am not hostile to other posters, neither have I pointed the finger at anyone.  You have a few genuine people at every club who put the morals first, then you have a few drama queens and then finally, you have a few who are that blinkered, they might not even realise that there are other valid options.  I have my own opinions on who is who but I keep them to myself.  If I broadcast them, perhaps that would be deemed hostile.

This bit I'm not bothered about. They could call the Leagues as they are and make them finalised or they can Void them or do whatever. Whatever they do will fuck over someone but the Leagues trying to play out will fuck over others. Can anyone see Liverpool fans not trying to "be there" when the League is won if games are being played, or watching in groups or other things, same for Leeds and West Brom fans. However if the announcement is just made either way, i'm hoping a muted mention will mute all the potential celebrations etc.




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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2533 on: April 23, 2020, 06:07:18 PM »
I do know it.


Then I apologise for the profanities.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2534 on: April 23, 2020, 06:22:43 PM »
France think they can get games back with fans by Sept ...

 


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