This latest U turn on the Bomb Squad with the open arms for Hutton and NZoig and Bent, malingers all and the boot up the arse for Marc and Fonz for me is the final, though not really needed, confirmation that Villa is currently owned, run and managed by fucking ninnies.
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Quote from: brian green on May 21, 2014, 09:10:26 AMThis latest U turn on the Bomb Squad with the open arms for Hutton and NZoig and Bent, malingers all and the boot up the arse for Marc and Fonz for me is the final, though not really needed, confirmation that Villa is currently owned, run and managed by fucking ninnies.You're letting them off lightly with "ninnies"!
Quote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 11:11:23 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 04:58:34 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 04:53:08 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 03:13:27 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 02:52:15 PMTen years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.You miss understand, we've bettered the deals of the nineties because footballs awash with money, but during this time we've allowed other clubs to catch us up and they now compete with us at a level none of us would have believed possible. Wigan, Hull, Fulham, Swansea; we're Aston bloomin Villa for Christsake!I don't misunderstand at all but if you could tell me how much those other clubs get paid I'd be grateful. If by 'get paid' you mean how much they turnover then the point I'm trying to make is that, whatever the figure, it's far too close to our own turnover to consider our commercial performance to have been anything other than disappointing and failing to live up to Randys hype and expectation.TV money aside what would you list as our commercial successes during his reign?Give us the figures then. I'd say that record kit and sponsorship deals are decent enough, as is the club's massively improved marketing. I'd also like to know on what planet our commercial department and ground were better ten years ago than they are now.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 04:58:34 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 04:53:08 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 03:13:27 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 02:52:15 PMTen years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.You miss understand, we've bettered the deals of the nineties because footballs awash with money, but during this time we've allowed other clubs to catch us up and they now compete with us at a level none of us would have believed possible. Wigan, Hull, Fulham, Swansea; we're Aston bloomin Villa for Christsake!I don't misunderstand at all but if you could tell me how much those other clubs get paid I'd be grateful. If by 'get paid' you mean how much they turnover then the point I'm trying to make is that, whatever the figure, it's far too close to our own turnover to consider our commercial performance to have been anything other than disappointing and failing to live up to Randys hype and expectation.TV money aside what would you list as our commercial successes during his reign?
Quote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 04:53:08 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 03:13:27 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 02:52:15 PMTen years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.You miss understand, we've bettered the deals of the nineties because footballs awash with money, but during this time we've allowed other clubs to catch us up and they now compete with us at a level none of us would have believed possible. Wigan, Hull, Fulham, Swansea; we're Aston bloomin Villa for Christsake!I don't misunderstand at all but if you could tell me how much those other clubs get paid I'd be grateful.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 20, 2014, 03:13:27 PMQuote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 02:52:15 PMTen years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.You miss understand, we've bettered the deals of the nineties because footballs awash with money, but during this time we've allowed other clubs to catch us up and they now compete with us at a level none of us would have believed possible. Wigan, Hull, Fulham, Swansea; we're Aston bloomin Villa for Christsake!
Quote from: Lucky Eddie on May 20, 2014, 02:52:15 PMTen years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.
Ten years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!