Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[brian green]

And I bagsy be his mentor Mel Brooks singing "High Anxiety".

[Rigadon]

A bad day to give up the glue.

[brian green]

This latest U turn on the Bomb Squad with the open arms for Hutton and NZoig and Bent, malingers all and the boot up the arse for Marc and Fonz for me is the final, though not really needed, confirmation that Villa is currently owned, run and managed by fucking ninnies.

[PaulWinch again]

It's not a great sign to be honest.

[curiousorange]

Other than us having to look for new ownership as a Championship side, I fail to see how things could be more worrying at Villa right now. We're in the stickiest situation since Sticky the Stick Insect got stuck on a sticky bun.

[brian green]

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[Billy Walker]

This latest U turn on the Bomb Squad with the open arms for Hutton and NZoig and Bent, malingers all and the boot up the arse for Marc and Fonz for me is the final, though not really needed, confirmation that Villa is currently owned, run and managed by fucking ninnies.

You're letting them off lightly with "ninnies"!   It is quite clear that Lerner and Faulkner are utterly incompetent - I wonder why on earth Lambert is agreeing to do this thankless job for them?  It can't just be for the money.

[curiousorange]

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As will the league we'll be playing in someday if our fortunes don't improve.

[not3bad]

This latest U turn on the Bomb Squad with the open arms for Hutton and NZoig and Bent, malingers all and the boot up the arse for Marc and Fonz for me is the final, though not really needed, confirmation that Villa is currently owned, run and managed by fucking ninnies.

You're letting them off lightly with "ninnies"!   

I'll have to agree. I'm taking it all the way to ploppypants.

[Lucky Eddie]

Ten years ago we had a commercial department and a football ground to rival the best in the country; the very idea that Wigan, Hull and Swansea would be mentioned commercially in the same breath as Aston Villa was unthinkable!

Earlier today you were saying that beating their deals was no big achievement. Make your mind up.

You miss understand, we've bettered the deals of the nineties because footballs awash with money, but during this time we've allowed other clubs to catch us up and they now compete with us at a level none of us would have believed possible.

Wigan, Hull, Fulham, Swansea; we're Aston bloomin Villa for Christsake!

I don't misunderstand at all but if you could tell me how much those other clubs get paid I'd be grateful.

If by 'get paid' you mean how much they turnover then the point I'm trying to make is that, whatever the figure, it's far too close to our own turnover to consider our commercial performance to have been anything other than disappointing and failing to live up to Randys hype and expectation.

TV money aside what would you list as our commercial successes during his reign?

Give us the figures then. I'd say that record kit and sponsorship deals are decent enough, as is the club's massively improved marketing. I'd also like to know on what planet our commercial department and ground were better ten years ago than they are now.

No ones said they were better ten years ago than they are now; what I'm saying is that ten years ago our whole infrastructure was light years ahead of clubs who've accelerated to compete with us whilst we've failed to capitalise on our status in world football, prime catchment area and twenty year experience and benefit of premiership standing and earnings.

[dave.woodhall]

Are you ever going to show us the proof of this?

[villa `cross the mersey]

Lucky Eddie wrote "we've failed to capitalise on our status in world football, prime catchment area "

A question and an observation -

Just what do you think our status is in world football?

and .....given our prime catchment area - in my 50 +years of watching the Villa we have never constantly filled the ground, otherwise it would have been expanded to 76,000 or whatever it was in the halcyon days 

[Clampy]

The more Luck Eddie posts, the more I think he has absolutely no idea what he's on about.

[dave.woodhall]

To quote two men who know (or in one case knew) more than any of us could ever hope to:

"Villa have done well to still be regarded as a big club on the back of one FA Cup, one league title and one European trophy in eighty years" - Terry Weir.

"In all my time watching the Villa we've never filled the ground regularly" - John Russell.

[Ron Manager]

I can confirm these facts. I started in Mar 57  PNE 2-0 (Myerscough and Sewell) and even then the crowds fluctuated from match to match.At the beginning of the 50's we could have a 60,000 crowd followed by a 30000 crowd. I may be wrong but I think our best average was when we were in the third division!

Sell outs at Villa Park have only rarely happened.