Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[pauliewalnuts]

Shame on you for not taking the time to find the old thread, Ads!

Merged.

[Legion]

I searched for this earlier but could not find it.

[PeterWithesShin]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

[Greg N'Ash]

I agree with Dave that McLeish actually did forge a unit at Small Heath which had team spirit and mental toughness.   He came within eleven minutes of saving them after the cup victory made them implode.

I think a hard core of our players are openly disregarding his instructions.   Houllier knew who the bad apples were and put the wheels in motion to get rid of them.   Houllier's health did not hold up and the player power nucleus is calling the shots again.If McLeish picks a side to try to pressure Man U's unusually suspect defence and tells them to have a dart at them but the players - including Given - lump it upfield for Darren Bent to jump for the culprits should be put in the reserves for a month.   If discipline can be brought to bear on N'Zogbia for failing to attend a treatment session why can't the same discipline be used on Collins, Dunne, Warnock and Hutton for persistently refusing to make simple ground level passes to one of their own men?

I think you right there but it wasn't Houllier's health that stopped us getting rid of them i'd wager, more the cost. Flogging off the troublemakers and buying replacements would have cost a fortune. We've got players like Beye who we can't even afford to pay off early so there was no chance GH winning that arguement with Lerner.

AM has exactly the same problem. If he drops dunne or warnock and they start trouble again what can he realistically do? He can't sell them and bring replacements in - they know the score as much as we do - they'd just laugh in his face.

[Chris Smith]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

[PeterWithesShin]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

So you keep claiming. Tell me Chris, is 2 wins in 12 mid table form?

[Iago]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

Great. We are so lucky to have AM.

[LeeB]

Can Chris Smith defend that?

Let's not forget we can't win away and we don't turn up against top 6 teams (we still have 3 left this month).

Relegation is looking very likely if something isn't done. This man will take us down. I'm really certain of it. I mean look at his post match interviews. He sugarcoats everything. I mean he said the second half was better, but didn't say it was still an unacceptable level at this club. And he praises Heskey (oh great looks like he'll be in the first team) despite doing a ridiculously farce of a strike where he knocked it out for a throwing. He doesn't even seem to realise how shit he has turned us into and won't change his ways. With this football, we'll be only heading one way by the end of the season.

It's like Hodgson at Liverpool. That wasn't his level at all and the fans managed to get rid of him because they pressured the board. Can we do the same with McLeish? Probably not because on this forum people flame posters such as myself when all my posts contain of is being frustrated of a man who is destroying us. Well done, flaming your own instead of reuniting for the sake of this club.

Oh fuck off mate.

[Chris Smith]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

So you keep claiming. Tell me Chris, is 2 wins in 12 mid table form?

According to the league table it is. Is there another way of measuring it that will show different?

[TaxDodger]

2 wins in 13 (or 12 if you don't include Bolton in the LC) is hardly the form of a mid table side, especially when only 3 of those games were against the so called current big 6.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

So you keep claiming. Tell me Chris, is 2 wins in 12 mid table form?

That does ignore the 4 points we got from our opening two fixtures though.

[Greg N'Ash]

Does anyone think we'll still be mid-table by the end of this month?

No, I didn't think so.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

[saunders_heroes]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

You make it sound like we lost the other 10 games though. You still get points for draws you know.

[LeeB]

I'm asking if you consider it to be midtable form Chris. Without looking at a league table, if someone said they supported a club that had won 2 of the last 12 would you say, sounds like a mid table club?

You make it sound like we lost the other 10 games though. You still get points for draws you know.

Thank fuck, because if they were given out for entertainment we'd docked 30 points for bringing the game into disrepute.

[caster troy]

Bolton v Aston Villa
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Aston Villa v Arsenal
Stoke v Aston Villa
Chelsea v Aston Villa

The next 5 games, then we'll have played everyone and be at the halfway point of the season. I honestly can't see us getting more than 4 points which would put us on 20 for the season so far. On that basis we might just about stay up if we replicate that in the second half of the season. Part of me thinks we could lose all 5, then we'd really be in the shit.