Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Monty]

2010 Birmingham City PL 14 W3 D7 L4 GF 15 GA 17 GD -2 Pts 16 
2011 Aston Villa         PL 14 W3 D7 L4 GF 16 GA 18 GD -2 Pts 16

Spooky eh. At least it all ended well for them. Oh wait!

That is fucking terrifying.

[tarzansbrother]

Bland, inept and a thoroughly terrible way of playing football is what I have witnessed this season. I can take us losing but this brand of football is a disgrace. Only one person to blame for the team and only person to blame for the club.

[PaulWinch again]

2010 Birmingham City PL 14 W3 D7 L4 GF 15 GA 17 GD -2 Pts 16 
2011 Aston Villa         PL 14 W3 D7 L4 GF 16 GA 18 GD -2 Pts 16

Spooky eh. At least it all ended well for them. Oh wait!

That is fucking terrifying.

But totally believable if you watch us, we are diabolical. It's an insult given the ability of some of our players.

[themossman]

I'll also throw my hat in the ring as a glass-half-full type who is starting to think we're proper fucked.

[themossman]

The biggest thing on my mind is the baffling inconsistency in Randy's approach to appointing managers (which is, pound for pound, the biggest decision an owner has to make). There are grumbles while MON is here about his limited, unreconstructed football and unimaginiative signings. So we get in Houllier. A leftfield appointment, lots of question marks, but when he talks about developing the next generation, playing atractive football, benches shite like Warnock, you start to justify it to yourself. But that doesn't work out and we talk to Matinez. Who is plain not good enough for Villa, but is young, well rated wherever he's been, tries to get teams palying imaginative football. So you justify it you yourself. And then we give McLeish the fucking job. What is the decision making process there?

[Compass]

Can Chris Smith defend that?

Let's not forget we can't win away and we don't turn up against top 6 teams (we still have 3 left this month).

Relegation is looking very likely if something isn't done. This man will take us down. I'm really certain of it. I mean look at his post match interviews. He sugarcoats everything. I mean he said the second half was better, but didn't say it was still an unacceptable level at this club. And he praises Heskey (oh great looks like he'll be in the first team) despite doing a ridiculously farce of a strike where he knocked it out for a throwing. He doesn't even seem to realise how shit he has turned us into and won't change his ways. With this football, we'll be only heading one way by the end of the season.

It's like Hodgson at Liverpool. That wasn't his level at all and the fans managed to get rid of him because they pressured the board. Can we do the same with McLeish? Probably not because on this forum people flame posters such as myself when all my posts contain of is being frustrated of a man who is destroying us. Well done, flaming your own instead of reuniting for the sake of this club.

[TonyD]

I can see us getting 2 points from the next 6 games if AM stays in charge. 

[brian green]

I agree with Dave that McLeish actually did forge a unit at Small Heath which had team spirit and mental toughness.   He came within eleven minutes of saving them after the cup victory made them implode.

I think a hard core of our players are openly disregarding his instructions.   Houllier knew who the bad apples were and put the wheels in motion to get rid of them.   Houllier's health did not hold up and the player power nucleus is calling the shots again.

If McLeish picks a side to try to pressure Man U's unusually suspect defence and tells them to have a dart at them but the players - including Given - lump it upfield for Darren Bent to jump for the culprits should be put in the reserves for a month.   If discipline can be brought to bear on N'Zogbia for failing to attend a treatment session why can't the same discipline be used on Collins, Dunne, Warnock and Hutton for persistently refusing to make simple ground level passes to one of their own men?

[SoccerHQ]

I do wonder what on earth we do on the training pitch at Bodymoor? It can't be defending set pieces due to the amount we've conceded this season. It can't be passing and keeping the ball as surely if we practised it enough on the training pitches it would eventually translate onto the pitch. And it can't be creating chances as we have failed badly in the last 3 matches.

He should go but as Ads points out in his excellent post, who would be confident Lerner would appoint a competent manager? Steve Bruce may be a better manager than McLeish but he failed at Sunderland.

Very very depressing. We won't go down imo but if we don't sort ourselves out in the summer from top to bottom we could be in serious danger of going down next season.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Terrible to watch there is nothing, not even passion.

Think we need demonstrations like at Blackburn :-)

[mike]

I feel sorry for Randy. I really thought that selling our best players and appointing a manager renowned for dull, defenceless tactics and getting his team relegated would improve us. Looks like me and Randy were both wrong.

[Risso]

I feel sorry for Randy. I really thought that selling our best players and appointing a manager renowned for dull, defenceless tactics and getting his team relegated would improve us. Looks like me and Randy were both wrong.

Ouch, back in the knife drawer Mr Sharp!

[Chris Smith]

Can Chris Smith defend that?

Let's not forget we can't win away and we don't turn up against top 6 teams (we still have 3 left this month).

Relegation is looking very likely if something isn't done. This man will take us down. I'm really certain of it. I mean look at his post match interviews. He sugarcoats everything. I mean he said the second half was better, but didn't say it was still an unacceptable level at this club. And he praises Heskey (oh great looks like he'll be in the first team) despite doing a ridiculously farce of a strike where he knocked it out for a throwing. He doesn't even seem to realise how shit he has turned us into and won't change his ways. With this football, we'll be only heading one way by the end of the season.

It's like Hodgson at Liverpool. That wasn't his level at all and the fans managed to get rid of him because they pressured the board. Can we do the same with McLeish? Probably not because on this forum people flame posters such as myself when all my posts contain of is being frustrated of a man who is destroying us. Well done, flaming your own instead of reuniting for the sake of this club.

You get stick because of the way you express your opinions not for the opinions themselves. There's no balance.

The club have down sized, we're now geared up to being a mid table side. McLeish s delivering mid table results. He's doing the job asked of him.

[Lee]

The biggest thing on my mind is the baffling inconsistency in Randy's approach to appointing managers (which is, pound for pound, the biggest decision an owner has to make). There are grumbles while MON is here about his limited, unreconstructed football and unimaginiative signings. So we get in Houllier. A leftfield appointment, lots of question marks, but when he talks about developing the next generation, playing atractive football, benches shite like Warnock, you start to justify it to yourself. But that doesn't work out and we talk to Matinez. Who is plain not good enough for Villa, but is young, well rated wherever he's been, tries to get teams palying imaginative football. So you justify it you yourself. And then we give McLeish the fucking job. What is the decision making process there?

That's what I don't get in the slightest. The Board have been at pains to remind us that they are convinced that he is the man for the job, but all the evidence to the contrary shows that this is complete folly.

[Clampy]

Can Chris Smith defend that?

Let's not forget we can't win away and we don't turn up against top 6 teams (we still have 3 left this month).

Relegation is looking very likely if something isn't done. This man will take us down. I'm really certain of it. I mean look at his post match interviews. He sugarcoats everything. I mean he said the second half was better, but didn't say it was still an unacceptable level at this club. And he praises Heskey (oh great looks like he'll be in the first team) despite doing a ridiculously farce of a strike where he knocked it out for a throwing. He doesn't even seem to realise how shit he has turned us into and won't change his ways. With this football, we'll be only heading one way by the end of the season.

It's like Hodgson at Liverpool. That wasn't his level at all and the fans managed to get rid of him because they pressured the board. Can we do the same with McLeish? Probably not because on this forum people flame posters such as myself when all my posts contain of is being frustrated of a man who is destroying us. Well done, flaming your own instead of reuniting for the sake of this club.

The club have down sized, we're now geared up to being a mid table side. McLeish s delivering mid table results. He's doing the job asked of him.

No goals in three games is not mid table form, it's relegation form. If you're going to accept that Chris then fair enough, but don't expect the rest of us to.