He might be embarassed by it, but he doesn't do anything to prevent it from happening. I do wish VFC would realise that when you've got nothing to say, the best course is to say nothing. Then again, we wouldn't have these pleasant little debates if they did.
Quote from: "Chris Smith"I know that Risso, but as I posted 80 pages back I don't think enough has been done to correct that view and it detracts from their credibility in my eyes. If they get misrepresented once then that's fair enough, but to allow it to keep happening leaves them open to the criticism that will inevitably follow.I only ever remember seeing the term "Fans' Chief" in one piece, and read on another site that Jon was embarrassed by it.I think that most people are intelligent enough to work out that when a group is mentioned, it doen't necessarily mean all fans agree with that point of view.
I know that Risso, but as I posted 80 pages back I don't think enough has been done to correct that view and it detracts from their credibility in my eyes. If they get misrepresented once then that's fair enough, but to allow it to keep happening leaves them open to the criticism that will inevitably follow.
So is ST membership on the increase or decline?
I can't find my form.....
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"It happened once that I've seen. You're positive Jon knew that's what the journo in question was going to write before he printed it, and did nothing to stop it?I doubt very much that he knew what said journo was going to write - the first time. Has he spoken to him since?
It happened once that I've seen. You're positive Jon knew that's what the journo in question was going to write before he printed it, and did nothing to stop it?
I doubt very much that he knew what said journo was going to write - the first time. Has he spoken to him since?
Quote: So is ST membership on the increase or decline? I think we have a right to know.
have the members voted with their feet?
Quote(or may I call you Laughing as I bet your Christening was a blast). I was circumcised by a Russian Rabbi in Stoke.
(or may I call you Laughing as I bet your Christening was a blast).
I agree with Laughing Gravity. The Trust PR does appear to be claiming that the Trust wishes to decide whether...good for ALL supporters.It may not be what was intended to be said, but it's how it comes across. Honestly, it does..
Quote from: "pete bland"I agree with Laughing Gravity. The Trust PR does appear to be claiming that the Trust wishes to decide whether...good for ALL supporters.It may not be what was intended to be said, but it's how it comes across. Honestly, it does..I read it as the ST being keen that all supporters retain the right to be shareholders if the club goes private.
Quote from: "Laughing Gravity"Quote(or may I call you Laughing as I bet your Christening was a blast). I was circumcised by a Russian Rabbi in Stoke.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but he cut off the wrong bit.
I'll say this quickly in case Simon tells me off. That particular term might only have been used once, but they are often misrepresented as 'an umbrella group for all supporters organisations' or similar. That's not true and they should make it clear to the press people that they deal with just who they represent. Then we might have an idea too.
It's a pressure group. A group of people backed by many more, putting forward a particular viewpoint. VFC doesn't represent all villa fans and has never claimed to do so.
VFC (Villa Fans Combined)VFC is an umbrella group that includes independent websites such as Holteenders.com (Mike Field), VillaTalk.com (Peter Bosworth and John Cresswell), astonished etc, Navid Nazir of Avisa, The Aston Villa Shareholders Association, Jonathan Fear and a long list of supporters from all sections of the Villa community.