Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Risso]

We believe that any bid should not lead to the removal of supporter involvement via ownership, although we accept that a takeover may lead to the PLC going private

If a takeover does end up with the club being in private hands, what then for the Trust?

[Laughing Gravity]

Laughing Gravity’s clearly an energetic and enthusiastic supporter of VFC so, if he can bear to be relieved of the anonymity of hiding behind a keyboard, he should put his money where his mouse is and give Fear the help he so obviously needs.

He doesn't need any help. It's not that kind of group.

[Laughing Gravity]

If a takeover does end up with the club being in private hands, what then for the Trust?

I expect they'll go on speaking for the supporters.

[Oscar Goldman]

Laughing Gravity’s clearly an energetic and enthusiastic supporter of VFC so, if he can bear to be relieved of the anonymity of hiding behind a keyboard, he should put his money where his mouse is and give Fear the help he so obviously needs.

He doesn't need any help. It's not that kind of group.

What's not what kind of group?

[Dave]

Quoting Pete Bland:

We've done this loads of times before. It's not a membership organisation. There are no members cards, joining fee etc. It's not "democratic" It's a pressure group.

If that's the case then can I start issuing press releases calling myself a VFC spokesman then? As long as if covers a vague 'Ellis Out' subject, then surely I have as much right as anyone to issue one, no?

[Chris Smith]

Chris,

whether they provide the guarantees that it is in the supporters interest

The Trust are deciding "the supporters interest"

That is a self-appointed. The Trust is really a very small number of people.

Egos, it's all about egos.

It then goes on to explain what it means by supporter interest:

We believe that any bid should not lead to the removal of supporter involvement via ownership, although we accept that a takeover may lead to the PLC going private. The Trust is committed to supporter involvement and we urge any bidder to take this into account.

Which is soemthing that Trust members (and I'll declare an interest here) have been given the opportunity to vote on.

It's easy to pretend that it's all about egos, it saves having to answer the difficult questions.

[Laughing Gravity]

If that's the case then can I start issuing press releases calling myself a VFC spokesman then? As long as if covers a vague 'Ellis Out' subject, then surely I have as much right as anyone to issue one, no?

Someone is catching on.

Give it a try.

[Chris Smith]

Laughing Gravity’s clearly an energetic and enthusiastic supporter of VFC so, if he can bear to be relieved of the anonymity of hiding behind a keyboard, he should put his money where his mouse is and give Fear the help he so obviously needs.

He doesn't need any help. It's not that kind of group.

How do you know he doesn't need help?

[Laughing Gravity]

Which is soemthing that Trust members (and I'll declare an interest here) have been given the opportunity to vote on.

I don't care how many of the small number of ST members voted on it, you don't speak for all Villa supporters. You hardly speak for any of them.

[Oscar Goldman]

Quoting Pete Bland:

We've done this loads of times before. It's not a membership organisation. There are no members cards, joining fee etc. It's not "democratic" It's a pressure group.

If that's the case then can I start issuing press releases calling myself a VFC spokesman then?

Yes, anyone can.

[Dave]

"On behalf of the non-democratic, non-hierarchical pressure group Villa Fans Combined I would like it to be noted by the media that we still don't like Doug Ellis.

David Houghton
VFC Spokesman

PS Ellis Out"

I'll whack that over to Reuters now then.

[Oscar Goldman]

Come on, Gravity, exactly what kind of group is VFC and why are you so unwilling to help it?

[Chris Smith]

Which is soemthing that Trust members (and I'll declare an interest here) have been given the opportunity to vote on.

I don't care how many of the small number of ST members voted on it, you don't speak for all Villa supporters. You hardly speak for any of them.

Where has anyone claimed to "speak on behalf of all Villa supporters". The Trust having a view that something is not, in their opinion, in the interests of supporters is not the same as being a Villa Fans Chief.

[Laughing Gravity]

Where has anyone claimed to "speak on behalf of all Villa supporters".

You read the press release.

The Trust having a view that something is not, in their opinion, in the interests of supporters is not the same as being a Villa Fans chief

really?

[Risso]

Where has anyone claimed to "speak on behalf of all Villa supporters". The Trust having a view that something is not, in their opinion, in the interests of supporters is not the same as being a Villa Fans Chief.

Which is something that Jon Fear has never referred to himself as.  Although to follow the reasoning given for the Trust's statement, it could be argued that he's the "chief" of the fans he represents.