Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Mac]

Tony how is saying a 81 yo is not fit for the job agist, he isn't, no 81 would be.

F'ing ell, that statement, by it's globally sweeping presumption, IS ageist.

[Red Robbo]

Some people are just too stupid  :-$

[canadamatt]

In terms of contribution to this site I'd give you a 3.  You only seem to pipe up when there's a VFC thread.  STILL not got over your Villa Talk experience Matthew?

3 Mr Angry's it is...it gets lower every time  :-k

[ianrobo]

Tony how is saying a 81 yo is not fit for the job agist, he isn't, no 81 would be.

F'ing ell, that statement, by it's globally sweeping presumption, IS ageist.

how can it be ageist Mac, retirement age is 65, every company I have worked for enforces the rule and why ?

because you need to renew your staff at that age people get less involved, less interested and more boring.

I asked for examples and was brought one name I had not heard off but just like you wouldn't want a 20 year old running Villa you also wouldn't want a 81 year old (for obviously different reasnons before anyone becomes smart arse !!)

[Disco Stu]

What’s age got to do with it?

William Pitt The Younger was Prime Minister at 24 while Gladstone and Churchill both held the job into their 80s.

This age business is simply a VFC red herring.  

Are we expected to believe that they’d think Doug was wonderful if only he were a few years younger?

[Lee]

Well there are a few of us that can play Godber...

Richard Beckinsale was somewhat taller than you.

How do you know  :smt002

[Oscar Goldman]

I've seen him on the telly.

[richardhubbard]

So Man Ure are different because they generate three times more money than us

Arsenal have been lucky wiith managers but now gone into debt by £200m

Liverpool are I believe £50m in debt (can anyone confirm this)

So none of them have the same policies because they all agressively market the club to increase revenue streams and thus afford players.

I am advocating debt Simon, all companies run an amount of leverage, anyone with a mortgage runs a debt based on future income.

It is a risk (and there's the key) but we could run a debt of £40m and afford it this releases the money for players to get us higher, generating  more money.

That is what all companiess do.

do you think DHL are buying Excel with cash ?

Ian that is utter rubbish, new investor borrow to buy villa 100% say 50m, debt gets loaded into AVFC Ltd, AVFC have to service debt. E.g 50 million debt, service costs 6-8M, a year. We play 20 games a season = servicing costs of 400000 a game. Average crowd 35000 (gates rise with new ownership), equals costs to each fan to service debt 12 pounds a game. Are you gonna pay between 28-40 pounds a ticket JUST to service debt borrowings to buy the club, NOT to sign players!
We need to see where this money is coming from to buy villa prior to getting the welcome carpet out!

[richardhubbard]

Tony how is saying a 81 yo is not fit for the job agist, he isn't, no 81 would be.

F'ing ell, that statement, by it's globally sweeping presumption, IS ageist.

how can it be ageist Mac, retirement age is 65, every company I have worked for enforces the rule and why ?

retirement age does not apply to directors

[Mac]

What I want to know is what's happened to that fund that the VFC keep banging on about.

[Mac]

Tony how is saying a 81 yo is not fit for the job agist, he isn't, no 81 would be.

F'ing ell, that statement, by it's globally sweeping presumption, IS ageist.

how can it be ageist Mac, retirement age is 65, every company I have worked for enforces the rule and why ?

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[ianrobo]

Richard on your point on the takeover I totally agree with you, until we see the details of the bid we simply do not know what will happen.

I suspect it will be a cash deal, as if you have a club with no debt it is a good starting point, but you will obviously bring the Glaziers in.

Problem is Rich at some point now or even in the next year the club will be sold so we just have to hope they are good for us.

[richardhubbard]

Richard on your point on the takeover I totally agree with you, until we see the details of the bid we simply do not know what will happen.

I suspect it will be a cash deal, as if you have a club with no debt it is a good starting point, but you will obviously bring the Glaziers in.

Problem is Rich at some point now or even in the next year the club will be sold so we just have to hope they are good for us.

I agree the club will be sold, I hope it is financed properly. I hope we do well. I know I have no impact on that. Shame the FEAR does not realise that and shut up

[Disco Stu]

What I want to know is what's happened to that fund that the VFC keep banging on about.

What fund is it that you're banging on about VFC banging on about, Mac?

[richardhubbard]

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