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Offline Simon Page

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« Reply #105 on: October 18, 2005, 05:06:01 PM »
Sorry, almost forgot this one

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I find it hard to think of a more ridiculed or hated Chairman


Admittedly most PRs are more careful. Certainly more careful than spur of the moment pronouncements.

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« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2005, 05:10:30 PM »
and whats the problem with that one, it is not a great one but nothing too abusive, unless you think having an 81 year old running a PLc is right

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« Reply #107 on: October 18, 2005, 05:13:01 PM »
Sorry, which one?

Did I ever mention I find it hard to think of a more ridiculed or hated former leader of a Villa fans' group? :wink:

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« Reply #108 on: October 18, 2005, 05:17:34 PM »
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  ".....Except where it's in the best interests of the company."  

Well thank God Doug stayed on then, else we'd have very probably "done a Leeds."


Aaaah, for the days when it was someone not a million miles from this thread's dearest wish to 'do a Leeds'.

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« Reply #109 on: October 18, 2005, 05:20:33 PM »
Dave, Leeds, blew with help from DOl. at one stage it worked until the Cardiff game, with two CL seasons and top of the table. it was the season after when they failed to qualify as the plan called for CL qualification it blew up.

We have never had a plan under Ellis, or if there was one it was well hidden !!

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« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2005, 05:22:09 PM »
So it's the rip-roaring success that is Leed United we're talking about now.

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« Reply #111 on: October 18, 2005, 05:22:45 PM »
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  ".....Except where it's in the best interests of the company."  

Well thank God Doug stayed on then, else we'd have very probably "done a Leeds."


Aaaah, for the days when it was someone not a million miles from this thread's dearest wish to 'do a Leeds'.


If we're digging up old views I'm sure I could have a look back and find some of your old rants against Doug.

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« Reply #112 on: October 18, 2005, 05:24:41 PM »
I thought Everton were the new role model of "success."  ;-)  :lol:

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« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2005, 05:25:54 PM »
Feel free, Risso. There's nothing much where I wouldn't defend my belief at the time, nor, with the wisdom of experience, if necessary explain my change of opinion.

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« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2005, 05:26:19 PM »
So we did want to do a Leeds, but don't want to do a Leeds. Like Doug, his detractors indulge in too much revising of points of reference.

We do have a plan under Doug. It's the same as always. In basic terms, give all available cash to the manager to spend, but don't bank on a top four finish. It's a good plan which falls down (from the fans' point of view) on a perceived inability to self-generate enough cash. It has produced more success than most, but not enough to create either sustained success or, in more recent years, peaks of hope.

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« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2005, 05:29:45 PM »
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Feel free, Risso. There's nothing much where I wouldn't defend my belief at the time, nor, with the wisdom of experience, if necessary explain my change of opinion.


And I'd say the same, so why use discussions from 4 years ago to back up your points?

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« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2005, 05:32:48 PM »
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And I'd say the same, so why use discussions from 4 years ago to back up your points?


Ten? fights against relegation.

No one man should control the Villa.

Where were you in '82.

I won't tolerate anything but success.

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« Reply #117 on: October 18, 2005, 05:35:20 PM »
It's all in the

































timing

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« Reply #118 on: October 18, 2005, 05:43:37 PM »
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So we did want to do a Leeds, but don't want to do a Leeds. Like Doug, his detractors indulge in too much revising of points of reference.

We do have a plan under Doug. It's the same as always. In basic terms, give all available cash to the manager to spend, but don't bank on a top four finish. It's a good plan which falls down (from the fans' point of view) on a perceived inability to self-generate enough cash. It has produced more success than most, but not enough to create either sustained success or, in more recent years, peaks of hope.


I agree Simon the plan is about staying where we are, being risk free and hoping we don't get relegated (thanks Marcus). However the plan is more suitable for a Charlton or a fulham not a big club. We have got the resources through loans to progress and try and challenge as Leeds did but failed.

It is always the fear of failure that has held Villa back and a number of supporters.

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« Reply #119 on: October 18, 2005, 05:47:41 PM »
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I think anybody reading this thread or the countless others like it might also reach the conclusion that Villa fans are nothing but whingers.


You can thank the VFC for that. All they do is fuckin moan. Every Villa fan worth his salt woke up with a smile as wide as the Mersey tunnel for the last couple of days, but what does the VFC do??
Yeah you guessed it, they fuckin moaned again.
Give us all a rest for Christ sake.

 


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