Fans Worried Over Villa Future

[Lee]

Well there are a few of us that can play Godber -  or will that be Steve Stride?

[Oscar Goldman]

Well there are a few of us that can play Godber...

Richard Beckinsale was somewhat taller than you.

[Mossa]

I do want him to quit now and sell Villa to folks who can take it forward.

And so say all of us. But VFC just seem to want Villa sold. To anybody. ](*,)

[BW]

I hope when we are sold, VFC retire!

As said a few months ago, it'll be a press release along the lines of

"We note with interest that we won"

[ianrobo]

Sunday's emotion was an old man, in his twilight years savouring a win for the club he loves, in the knowledge that it'll probably be his last as chairman of the club, as he will retire very shortly. Anything else is just conjecture and we can make up all the conspiracy theories we want, but all we know right now is that we've had an approach that he is listening to. Hardly big news at the moment

no conspriarcy theories Neil but look at the evidence

1) Two admissions within three days that bidders are talking to the club

2) A heart to heart on Friday with DOL

3) DOL's and Ellis's reaction

4) share price heading towards probable bid price (550p)

5) No statement from Ellis stating he will be leaving in a box

6) No replacement for FD and CEO

All of these add up in my mind only one sceanrio that teh deal will do, whilst Neil you may want to wait for the ink to dry I am predicting it will happen soon, no inside info just looking at the evidence.

[Simon Page]

He must have done something to rattle Doug, as he got a fair bit of discussion on SSN on Saturday.

Is the success of VFC is measured in column inches?

Cause and effect is a truly pliable science in VFC circles. As I pointed out on another AGM autopsy, the media spoke about the AGM because of the takeover talks. VFC/SA got in there as a loud anti-Doug voice. How that equates with rattling Doug is something only explicable in the alternative bubble in which VFC lives. DOUG was rattled (or put out) once in the AGM and that was when someone with no connection to VFC took it upon himself to claim no one could stand the sight of Doug.

As for the question about how do they get so much publicity, there are a number of outlets who require a story a day on every Premier League club, not least PA which feeds all these sites which pop up as the source of stories on here. Unsurprisingly, there are many days when sod all happens at a given club. I'll leave you to work out the cause and effect.

Just a couple of other points. VFC = fans' groups, or four flouncers, two associates and a couple of dozen members of apoplectics anonymous?

And what flirting with relegation?

[Pete]

4) share price heading towards probable bid price (550p)

Not sure if this is significant but shares down 21p today to 479.

[Laughing Gravity]

Oh no! The market doesn't think there will be a takeover.

[themossman]

sell! sell!

[Tony]

When has he ever claimed to speak on your behalf? I've never seen him claim to be the voice of all Villa fans. He represents a group of Villa fans.

He speaks on behalf of a group which claims to be an umbrella of Villa supporters' groups. In reality he represents maybe half a dozen of his friends. He's happy to be quoted as a fans' leader. That's why he gets so much stick.

Incidentally, this is what Jon Fear thinks of anyone who disagrees with him.

http://listman.net/archives/villa/2005-October/061553.html

Dave when you get quoted in the press the comments are similar "What right has Dave got to say that, who does he think he is, he doesn't represent me" blah blah blah. I'm still yet to see a claim from Jon Fear himself proclaiming himself as a self styled leader of the rebel alliance or whatever.

[dave.woodhall]

First - when I talk to the media (which isn't very often, as I long ago realised it's more trouble than it's worth), I make it clear that I speak for nobody but myself. If they want to twist that into something else, that's their outlook, but as a general rule, I won't deal with anyone who makes me out to be a leader or spokesman of/for anything again.

Second - Jon Fear regularly contacts the media, describing himself as the spokesman for VFC, which he then describes as a coalition of Villa fans' groups (although VFC tends to be sketchy about what these groups are). He therefore is, by any definition, calling himself a fans' leader. He has also, no matter how much he protests about the phrase, never, to my knowledge, refused to speak to anyone who describes him in the terms he claims to dislike. I can therefore only presume that he's happy to be called a fans' leader.

[Pete]

ianrobo wrote:

4) share price heading towards probable bid price (550p)


Not sure if this is significant but shares down 21p today to 479.

Oh no! The market doesn't think there will be a takeover.

Or they have an inkling that the offer will be less than a fiver a share? :-k [/b]

[Risso]

There are an awful lot of people out there who want to see the back of Ellis, and I'm sure that many of them agree with Jon's statements.  There may well be as many who think Doug's done a great job.  Nothing's stopping any of them forming a group or contacting the media.

[Big Daddy p 23]

to my knowledge, refused to speak to anyone who describes him in the terms he claims to dislike. I can therefore only presume that he's happy to be called a fans' leader.

And this is probably what winds most people up about him.

[Risso]

to my knowledge, refused to speak to anyone who describes him in the terms he claims to dislike. I can therefore only presume that he's happy to be called a fans' leader.

And this is probably what winds most people up about him.

Most people?  Or a few people on H&V with an axe to grind?