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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #150 on: January 31, 2020, 11:17:20 PM »
For all we know he was number 27 on our list, and apart from Samatta none of the others could be done because clubs didn't want to sell or were taking the piss, FFP, agents being twats, or any number of other reasons. I'm not exactly partying like mad that we've signed him but I know one thing, a few hours ago loads were saying only having Samatta and Davis was the club being negligent. Well we've signed someone else and it's still shit.

Just like you're not partying like mad, I am not slashing my wrists either.

Sorry if that doesn't fit in your narrative.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #151 on: January 31, 2020, 11:20:06 PM »
Yeah I think they looked at a few options to stand in for Wes and this was the one that they could do simple as that. Fingers crossed he helps to keep us up. The big disappointment for me was that they hadn’t already got a winger lined up although to be fair with playing 3 at the back, wing backs and 2 centre mids it means Grealish takes up one of the wing slots anyway. I also hope we have recall option on Chester, if not that could end up being a proper fuck up.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #152 on: January 31, 2020, 11:20:54 PM »
Not shit. Just not what was hoped for. Anyway, welcome to our club and prove me wrong please.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #153 on: January 31, 2020, 11:21:21 PM »
What narrative, are you on the blob you old woman? :P

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2020, 11:23:33 PM »
I'm just in a foul fucking mood.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2020, 11:26:10 PM »
Basically it's better than not signing a striker at all. Scores 2 or 3 important goals between now and end of the season it's a success. If he's half decent technically he might suprise us all. 16.5 million 3 years ago so clearly has something, and only 27. Not ideal, but ffp has clearly bitten very hard this window. 5 players including Barry, for about 10 million. It's clearly penny pinching in the extreme.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2020, 11:26:44 PM »
He’s probably third choice, someone to be there in case Davis’s injury proneness persists.

It’s hardly a great market, looking at who other clubs have signed (or not signed) either. Man United have reportedly just paid loads for a thirty year old who been playing in China for three years, Tottenham  haven’t really brought in any cover for Kane’s injury.

It’s not really as straightforward as ‘he’s not very good we should have signed someone better’

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #157 on: January 31, 2020, 11:27:38 PM »
All a little uninspiring, to be honest.

Let's be honest Lee, the whole window as been completely uninspiring.  Replaced Heaton with a keeper who might be ok but, if we are short due to FFP, we probably didn't need.  Spanish though, so that pleases Suso.  We sign some little fat bloke to replace SJM, not fit enough to smell SJM's underpants, we sign a striker who is completely untested but I am prepared to give the guy a fair chance, and to top it all off, we sign a friend of Suso.  Another Spanish guy who seemingly, used to be quite good but is now the equivalent of Hogan.  Crap window, utter shite.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #158 on: January 31, 2020, 11:30:12 PM »
All a little uninspiring, to be honest.

Let's be honest Lee, the whole window as been completely uninspiring.  Replaced Heaton with a keeper who might be ok but, if we are short due to FFP, we probably didn't need.  Spanish though, so that pleases Suso.  We sign some little fat bloke to replace SJM, not for enough to smell SJM's underpants, we sign a striker who is completely untested but I am prepared to give the guy a fair chance, and to top it all off, we sign a friend of Suso.  Another Spanish guy who seemingly, used to be quite good but is now the equivalent of Hogan.  Crap window, utter shite.
On the plus side, we reached Wembley, we’ve picked up a fair few points from our rivals without a striker and other than then City game we seem to have found our mojo.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #159 on: January 31, 2020, 11:32:38 PM »
Suso is absolutely fucking working his magic.
I think there are grounds for criticism of Suso, but I’m not too critical of this deal in particular. I think that the brief would have been to find a back-up striker, for no money, who can play as a lone striker, who is already acclimatised to the league. My criticism would be that we have over-relied on the Belgian market, which I don’t think is reliable enough for the money we have spent. However, everything that we have done since promotion has been to build an EPL standard squad, largely from scratch, on a fixed budget (due to FFP). I will wait until we (hopefully) have secured our EPL status and can improve the squad in a more measured and sustainable way, before passing judgement on Suso. If we aren’t unearthing talents, and getting good value out of the market at that point I will definitely be critical.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #160 on: January 31, 2020, 11:33:13 PM »
Is this a loan or a buy?

It's a fucking joke is what it is.

2 points outside the relegation zone and the likes of Drinkwater and Baston are who we end up with.

Perhaps if you could tell us who else we could have signed and would have wanted to join.

I'd have signed Salamon Rondon.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #161 on: January 31, 2020, 11:35:25 PM »
Suso is absolutely fucking working his magic.
I think there are grounds for criticism of Suso, but I’m not too critical of this deal in particular. I think that the brief would have been to find a back-up striker, for no money, who can play as a lone striker, who is already acclimatised to the league. My criticism would be that we have over-relied on the Belgian market, which I don’t think is reliable enough for the money we have spent. However, everything that we have done since promotion has been to build an EPL standard squad, largely from scratch, on a fixed budget (due to FFP). I will wait until we (hopefully) have secured our EPL status and can improve the squad in a more measured and sustainable way, before passing judgement on Suso. If we aren’t unearthing talents, and getting good value out of the market at that point I will definitely be critical.

Acclimatised to the league? 20 games, 1 goal. Hmmm.

I don't mind signing a player like this, my concern is the degree to which we're reliant on him plus another signing who has never kicked a ball in this league.

It's asking a lot of Samatta to adapt quick enough to impact this season, but he is going to have to, because he IS our first choice striker.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #162 on: January 31, 2020, 11:36:15 PM »
Weren't the reports at the time that like a lot of the Chinese signings he was on mental wages?

Edit: I'm on about Rondon.

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #163 on: January 31, 2020, 11:36:44 PM »
All a little uninspiring, to be honest.

Let's be honest Lee, the whole window as been completely uninspiring.  Replaced Heaton with a keeper who might be ok but, if we are short due to FFP, we probably didn't need.  Spanish though, so that pleases Suso.  We sign some little fat bloke to replace SJM, not for enough to smell SJM's underpants, we sign a striker who is completely untested but I am prepared to give the guy a fair chance, and to top it all off, we sign a friend of Suso.  Another Spanish guy who seemingly, used to be quite good but is now the equivalent of Hogan.  Crap window, utter shite.
On the plus side, we reached Wembley, we’ve picked up a fair few points from our rivals without a striker and other than then City game we seem to have found our mojo.

Shurrup you positive sod!! :-)  You are right of course.  I just wanted us to do better.  Sign Nzonzi to plug the gap in midfield, I just think that alone would make a huge difference to us. 

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Re: Borja Baston
« Reply #164 on: January 31, 2020, 11:37:32 PM »
I've never heard of him.

But, we've signed him.

There were loads of clubs looking for a new striker. ManU, Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham, Palace to name a few. They've not signed anyone either and that shows the difficulty in this window.

We've done some business, time will tell if its any good. However, the way some were talking earlier, they'd want their dead granny rather than  no one.

We'll see.

 


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