Louie Barry (on loan at Stockport County)

[PeterWithe]

His family are generously proportioned so I think the size will come soon.

[Hookeysmith]

Think Archer was playing on loan at Solihull Moors when he was 19, so a division below Barry.

To me, it sounds like he's got the technical ability but perhaps isn't physically strong enough yet. The latter will come with time, though.

I met on old school mate of mine for a drink to celebrate his birthday on Saturday, he's a Milton Keynes season ticket holder. His views aren't really surprising, trotted out the "there's a player in there" but thought Barry is far too small and ineffectual to make it at the top level. Young Louie is 20 in June, but still looks about 14. I guess he's running out of time to have that growth spurt he needs.

Being small isn't a deal breaker but it's a obstacle he needs to overcome soon, either by working on his core strength or by finding ways to use his size to his advantage.

Being diminutive has not hindered that little bloke who is Captain of Argentina

[LeeB]

I think it's hindering our record signing though

[paul_e]

Think Archer was playing on loan at Solihull Moors when he was 19, so a division below Barry.

To me, it sounds like he's got the technical ability but perhaps isn't physically strong enough yet. The latter will come with time, though.

I met on old school mate of mine for a drink to celebrate his birthday on Saturday, he's a Milton Keynes season ticket holder. His views aren't really surprising, trotted out the "there's a player in there" but thought Barry is far too small and ineffectual to make it at the top level. Young Louie is 20 in June, but still looks about 14. I guess he's running out of time to have that growth spurt he needs.

Being small isn't a deal breaker but it's a obstacle he needs to overcome soon, either by working on his core strength or by finding ways to use his size to his advantage.

Being diminutive has not hindered that little bloke who is Captain of Argentina

Exactly, same for Aguero and Bernardo Silva and many others over the years.

[LeeB]

Think Archer was playing on loan at Solihull Moors when he was 19, so a division below Barry.

To me, it sounds like he's got the technical ability but perhaps isn't physically strong enough yet. The latter will come with time, though.

I met on old school mate of mine for a drink to celebrate his birthday on Saturday, he's a Milton Keynes season ticket holder. His views aren't really surprising, trotted out the "there's a player in there" but thought Barry is far too small and ineffectual to make it at the top level. Young Louie is 20 in June, but still looks about 14. I guess he's running out of time to have that growth spurt he needs.

Being small isn't a deal breaker but it's a obstacle he needs to overcome soon, either by working on his core strength or by finding ways to use his size to his advantage.

Being diminutive has not hindered that little bloke who is Captain of Argentina

Exactly, same for Aguero and Bernardo Silva and many others over the years.

As you said earlier Paul it's a question of adapting your technique to use it to your advantage.

[eamonn]

Can't he take legal steroids?

[LeeB]

Can't he take legal steroids?

A year long loan move to a South African rugby club might do the trick

[paul_e]

Can't he take legal steroids?

A year long loan move to a South African rugby club might do the trick

He'd come back 3-4 stone heavier but with the player, club and coaches all adament it was purely from work on the training field.

[Drummond]

I remember under MON when Agbonlahor was pacy and he was sent away in the off season to bulk up. He did that and lost his pace and was never really the same player.

[Smithy]

I remember under MON when Agbonlahor was pacy and he was sent away in the off season to bulk up. He did that and lost his pace and was never really the same player.

The physical difference between 2008 Gabby and 2010 Gabby is really quite stark.  Especially when you consider he was between 22 and 24 at that point, not a developing kid.  From 20-22 he was like a whippet.

[Risso]

He's one I don't think will make it at anything higher than League 1 or 2 at best. Of the current crop, the only ones who I think might break through into the first team are Iroegbunam, Feeney and possibly Raikhy and Ramsey junior. I don't have much hope for the likes of Philogene-Bidace, Chukwuemeka, Brad Young or many of the current U21s. We should get reasonable fees for most of them though.

[pablo_picasso]

He's one I don't think will make it at anything higher than League 1 or 2 at best. Of the current crop, the only ones who I think might break through into the first team are Iroegbunam, Feeney and possibly Raikhy and Ramsey junior. I don't have much hope for the likes of Philogene-Bidace, Chukwuemeka, Brad Young or many of the current U21s. We should get reasonable fees for most of them though.

I agree about the bold names.

All three of those have the most likely chance of breaking through. Kesler-Hayden & possibly Philogene-Bidace are coin flips. All have pace, all have agility, all have decent skills for their position, along with a few from other positions which make them stand out in their own.

The rest, we should get some money for, apart from maybe that Chuckwuemeka kid. Who has all the physical attributes needed, & some of the technical, but really shitty mental attributes, so if he makes it, I will eat my own arse. Brad Young is a straight line pace merchant & Raikhy has never overly impressed me, even when I saw him at the level Stockport play at. Finn Azaz is more likely to make it than Raikhy. And Azaz is most likely being developed to sell. Philogene-Bidace needs to add an end product & some consistency for him to play himself into the equation. In my humble opinion of course.

But Iroebugnam, A. Ramsey, Feeney & possibly Kesler-Hayden, should play some part in our first team squad over the course of the next few years. The rest will drift off down the divisions into obscurity.

And then we are onto the likes of Kadan Young, Omari Kellyman, Rory Wilson & Kerr Smith. Who all have the potential, at this stage, to be considered ones for the future...

[eamonn]

I thought we had let Chuck Jr go as he was shite and had only signed him to keep the parents happy.

[UK Redsox]

I am always ashamed of geographical errors, even if the difference between Beds and Bucks reminds me of our thread diversion into pointless places of a few weeks back.

Both better than Suffolk though.

Although the H&V house band do have a song about Suffolk

[pablo_picasso]

I thought we had let Chuck Jr go as he was shite and had only signed him to keep the parents happy.

He's out on loan. Crawley... Not doing anything because pretty much wherever he goes, he thinks he is Pele & above the level he is playing at. While performing well below the level of his club.