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Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: The retained player list
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2020, 07:58:03 AM »
Injury apart the numbers say Wesley would have scored 9 or 10 goals in a season.  I think that is a very poor return on a 22.5 million investment.  2.25 million a goal.  Hogan (bought off Dean Smith) cost us 10 million.  1.43 million a goal. Samatta 10 million, 10 million a goal.  Davis 400k   200k a goal.

Rule of thumb fag packet numbers I know but the point I want to make is about getting, or not getting, what you pay for.

The problem is that 22.5m doesn't buy much these days. When you consider market value of players, Wesley currently sits 38th on the list of Premier League Strikers on Transfermarkt. Whilst that isn't scientific or proven it does highlight where we and he currently sit in the pecking order.

If we want a striker that scores lots of goals, we'll need to pay a lot of money and last summer we couldn't afford to.


And if you use the same per goal logic, what are the chances of buying the almost mythical 20 goal a season striker for 45m?

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Re: The retained player list
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2020, 10:35:48 AM »
Before Wesley got injured we were 3rd from bottom and had amassed 0.9 points per game.  Now we're 3rd from bottom, and are on 0.82 points a game.  I don't think there's a huge difference to be honest.  Wesley doesn't look very well suited to the English game.  He isn't quick, he's awful in the air, and he went lots of games without any efforts on goal at all.  Very similar faults to Davis and Samatta, with the difference that he cost 22m.

Is that a cumulative PPG over the season, or is the .82 just in the games since he's been out?

God, I love misberalim.

Not enough to be able to spell it correctly though, unfortunately.

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Re: The retained player list
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2020, 10:36:51 AM »
Would assume that Mings, McGinn and Grealish will be off, if and when we go down.

Others like Heaton, Douglas (not sure regarding his loan contract) and El Ghazi may go too.

Is James Chester still available? Would have him back. Think Jota will be useful in the Championship.

Players like Lansbury, Hogan and Bree can go

Jota couldn't get a game for a truly shite Blues team in the Championship.

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Re: The retained player list
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2020, 01:48:03 PM »
He was good at Brentford. Wouldn't want him as a regular starter next season but we will need cover on the bench.

Championship won't start until mid September and 46 games need to be crammed in so going to be a ridiculous schedule. We can't be competitive at that level with a smaller squad than this season. Already saw what happened to a form when key injuries started to happen from December.

Ultimately a few squad players people don't rate will have to be kept although hopefully they won't be regular starters.

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Re: The retained player list
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2020, 04:49:05 PM »
The following are to be retained for next season;
Heaton, Nyland, Kalinic, Steer,Onodi, Sinisolo, Marschall.

Bree, Elmohamady, Engels, Hause, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Taylor,Appiah, Bridge, Revan.D, Rowe, Walker, Burton, Haden, Revan.S, Sohna.M, Zito.

El Ghazi, Grealish, Trezeguet, Hourihane, Lansbury, McGinn, Nakamba, Jota, Luiz,Brunt, Clarke, Ramsey.J, Vassilev, Farr, Lindley, Raiky, Ramsey.A, Sohna.H, Sylla.

Davis, Hogan, Wesley, Samatta,Campton-Sturridge, Guy, Tait, Wright, Abldeen-Goodridge, Archer, Barry, Philogene-Bidace, Young.

1st teamers in bold.

If by any chance we keep all of them, who do we need to get in??
Vassilev listed as a MF?
Where's the MF Carney Chukwuemeka who was attracting interest from other clubs?
Has Sarcic been moved on? Ditto Suliman?

The players listed above are from the retained players list. You can see it and download it from the premier league web page.
Vassilev a MF from Villa Squad lists on official club website. The players you named will have all gone by the end of the season if they haven't already.

Not quite right. Chukwuemeka isn't on a full academy contract yet so he wouldn't be included. That's why there's been links to other teams, as happened with Crowley a while back the summer they're due to sign is always one where the better players (at any club) start getting offers from elsewhere. I think the delay in adding him is that the club are trying to skip straight to a full professional contract, there was a comment from Purslow a few weeks back that certainly suggested as much.


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