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Offline JB1811

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1875 on: January 10, 2020, 06:52:32 PM »
I would take Benteke back in out current situation, but I do still think there is a good player in Wesley, if he is given time.  From what I recall, quite a few players have taken a while to settle, and I wouldn't think Wesley's record looks much worse than others who have gone on to do well for us.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1876 on: January 10, 2020, 07:05:56 PM »
I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.

"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."

We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia.  Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago.  His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino.  He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before.  If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.

But..

We’ve seen his potential first hand and Wesley has been a passenger for the entire season. He has no impact on the game.

I’ll take a risk on an out of form Benteke over what Wesley has offered this season, no question.

But it’s not a straight choice between just those 2, there are other strikers. Also, saying that CB would do more than Wesley is not exactly a glowing endorsement.
I agree with Risso, if he hadn’t have played for us, not many people would give him a 2nd thought.

Offline Goldie.7

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1877 on: January 10, 2020, 07:16:44 PM »
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.

That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1878 on: January 10, 2020, 07:18:28 PM »
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.

That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.

In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.

Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1879 on: January 10, 2020, 07:20:23 PM »
I think this comment from a Palace fan sums it up for me.

"Villa desperate after they lost both goalie and main striker for rest of season. Really hope they feel nostalgic and pick up CB."

We'd be buying a player based exactly on that, nostalgia.  Not current form or ability, but what he did 5 years ago.  His three goals this season have come against Cyprus and San Marino.  He scored 1 goal last season, and 3 the year before.  If he hadn't played us for before, people would be going absolutely mental if a player that poor was linked with us.

But..

We’ve seen his potential first hand and Wesley has been a passenger for the entire season. He has no impact on the game.

I’ll take a risk on an out of form Benteke over what Wesley has offered this season, no question.
Three years isn't a loss of form; it's a loss of ability.
But if it’s a loan and option to buy what’s the problem?
I don’t see any risk whatsoever.
Surely he won’t be the only CF we get anyway..

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1880 on: January 10, 2020, 07:29:02 PM »
I don't think Benteke has done that badly, injuries aside. He looks to have played alright, but he's in an unlucky rut in front of goal.

I still think his face fits here. A place where he is hero worshipped. I sent a friend 3 gifs of him last night; rag dolling Smalling, back heel to Andi and the 25 yard biffer at the Albion. He was lightening in a bottle for us. Unplayable st times and adored. I think he needs that adulation.

He's gone from playing at the biggest club in the world and also playing for Liverpool, to an absolute dive in Palace, where Blakey routinely publically criticises him.

I think he's worth the gamble.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1881 on: January 10, 2020, 07:34:26 PM »
I also don't think the supply at Palace suits him. Zaha and Townsend aren't the sort that supply many goals, they're more the sort of wide players that are more selfish than providing balls into the box.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1882 on: January 10, 2020, 07:36:04 PM »
But if it’s a loan and option to buy what’s the problem?
I don’t see any risk whatsoever.
Surely he won’t be the only CF we get anyway..
If he's signed on top of everybody else we need, as an extra punt, and if we're not paying his full salary, and if we're not expecting him to be anywhere near the player he was when we first had him and if we're not relying on him to be our main source of goals, then maybe.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1883 on: January 10, 2020, 07:36:41 PM »
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.

That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.

In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.

Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say

Ridiculous comparisons. Those players are young and were in-form, Benteke is a non-scoring striker that's almost 30 years old.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1884 on: January 10, 2020, 07:37:45 PM »
If Palace would consider letting Benteke go, then it wouldn't hurt to get him on loan as long as we can get another striker in too. Buying him shouldn't be an option and I don't think it is.

Benteke and someone else of substance would be a decent bit of business in this window.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1885 on: January 10, 2020, 07:38:27 PM »
Bring him home

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1886 on: January 10, 2020, 07:41:46 PM »
Risso doesn’t want him so that’s another good reason to sign him up  😀

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1887 on: January 10, 2020, 07:43:14 PM »
My stance on Benteke is we bought him for £7m, sold him for £32m and if we buy him back for between £9-11m and he's a bust, we are theoretically still up £16-14m. If we loan him with a view even better.

That's my flawed logic and I'm sticking with it.

In this inflated market, we'd be doing extremely well to get him for 9-11m.

Wesley 22m, Joelinton 40m. Benteke 9m? Unlikely I'd say

Ridiculous comparisons. Those players are young and were in-form, Benteke is a non-scoring striker that's almost 30 years old.

"Ridiculous" comparisons? Haha, no, but nice try.

You can spin the story so easily the other way - Benteke is a seasoned pro with plenty of PL experience unlike the other two, who once showed himself capable of hitting 20 goals a season. Neither Joelinton nor Wesley look likely to ever do that, quite frankly.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1888 on: January 10, 2020, 07:44:52 PM »
Risso doesn’t want him so that’s another good reason to sign him up  😀
Risso's right though: it would be nostalgia signing.  There's no convincing football-related argument for signing him, it's a heart ruling the head thing.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1889 on: January 10, 2020, 07:45:00 PM »
I don't think Benteke has done that badly, injuries aside. He looks to have played alright, but he's in an unlucky rut in front of goal.


For three years?!

 


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