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Author Topic: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 287659 times)

Offline Mister E

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #465 on: December 15, 2019, 08:43:44 AM »
What we tend to forget is that we can afford to pay wages 3/4/5/6 x what players would earn in other European leagues.

We need 5 players in the January window although it will be a panic situation.

I initially thought a striker and maybe a winger wax all that was needed, but as each game passes I see more and more need for a central midfielder.  Nakamba gets a bit lost at times, Luiz is struggling to get up to speed, Hourihane is a defensive liability at times and Lansbury just isn't up to in the top flight unfortunately. 
Bringing in another 5 players would completely stuff us, I think. Too many to absorb in too short a time.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #466 on: December 15, 2019, 09:02:43 AM »
I dont think Smith has to bring in loads of new players. I think he needs another striker (someone like Danny Ings) to play alongside Wesley or Davis in a 4-4-2 at home and a 4-5-1 away.
Id see the best line-up as being: Heaton - Guilbert Engels Mings (or Hause) Targett Nakamba Grealish McGinn Hourihane Wesley New Guy.
Away from home, Id bench Wesley and bring in Luiz.
Playing without wingers would mean we are more compact (utilising our skilful midfielders) and gives space for our 2 fullbacks to get down the line.
Doing this would being greater combativeness in MF, with the ability to break quickly or drop back as required. The New Guy would need to be a player who can work his nuts off when we are not in possession and can slip into the channels when we do have the ball. Oh, and he'd obviously need to be able to score goals.
Wed need players to be passing and moving much more slickly and dynamically.
All of this is possible if Smith wants it to be, That will actually be the challenge.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #467 on: December 15, 2019, 09:05:58 AM »
has anyone mentioned Sam Cosgrove of Aberdeen. Big unit, lone striker, scoring for fun and ready to throw in. Remember SJM before criticising scottish football.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #468 on: December 15, 2019, 09:22:10 AM »
I can't see five players being signed. Smith has already spoke about the challenge of integrating all the new players (he mentioned it again in his presser before Sheffield United, contrasting his squad with Wilder's settled squad - so hey, if they beat us easily on Saturday, there's your reason).
Two in at most I would say.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #469 on: December 15, 2019, 09:26:58 AM »
What we tend to forget is that we can afford to pay wages 3/4/5/6 x what players would earn in other European leagues.

We need 5 players in the January window although it will be a panic situation.

I initially thought a striker and maybe a winger wax all that was needed, but as each game passes I see more and more need for a central midfielder.  Nakamba gets a bit lost at times, Luiz is struggling to get up to speed, Hourihane is a defensive liability at times and Lansbury just isn't up to in the top flight unfortunately. 
Bringing in another 5 players would completely stuff us, I think. Too many to absorb in too short a time.

Agree that we wouldn't need as many as five, but I do think we need a striker, winger and central midfielder. 

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #470 on: December 15, 2019, 09:29:14 AM »
Agree about central midfield. Weve bought a lot of similar players and still lack the kind of proper midfield destroyer we desperately need to unleash SJM and JG. Thats almost as bad an oversight from the summer as the fact we bet the farm on one striker.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #471 on: December 15, 2019, 09:37:43 AM »
Agree about central midfield. Weve bought a lot of similar players and still lack the kind of proper midfield destroyer we desperately need to unleash SJM and JG. Thats almost as bad an oversight from the summer as the fact we bet the farm on one striker.

I don't think the recruitment in central midfield was too bad in the summer, it is just that Luiz has struggled to get up to speed so far.  That's understandable seeing as he apparently didn't have a preseason, but it has left us a bit short in there, especially as Lansbury and Hourihane aren't really up to it in that kind of role.

What we really need is a solid option in there who we can then fit others around. 
« Last Edit: December 15, 2019, 10:47:06 AM by tomd2103 »

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #472 on: December 15, 2019, 09:43:56 AM »
I think we need a dirty little bastard up front. Got a feeling we'll rue the decision not to splash the extra cash on Maupay when we had the chance.
I think the interplay between him, Grealish and McGinn would have been the answer.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #473 on: December 15, 2019, 09:47:37 AM »
Seems a really odd decision now, especially when you think about him signing Jota and Konsa. He would have added a lot more movement and shithousery up front.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #474 on: December 15, 2019, 09:53:24 AM »
Need an experienced defensive midfielder but Im not sure thats a Dean Smith preference as he seems to like more mobile footballers.  Im not sure who Id want though.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #475 on: December 15, 2019, 10:03:10 AM »
We were crying out for a dcm especially after whelan left. We bring 2 internationals in for that position and we still aren't happy. How many dcm's do we want and is that position becoming the equivalent of right back under bruce where we just fill the team with dcm's?
If it's a question of bringing in another dcm to unleash McGinn, perhaps super John needs to return to his early season form (before talk of manure) to see the best of him again and players around him.
A striker is definitely needed, perhaps a speedy winger who can cross a ball and someone who can replace either McGinn or Grealish especially when the former is off form or Jack is out injured.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #476 on: December 15, 2019, 10:04:28 AM »
I saw Nzonzi play the other day, he's in Turkey on loan from Roma. Someone of his ilk would be a good short term solution.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #477 on: December 15, 2019, 10:05:46 AM »
I dont know about luiz. I dont think weve seen the best of him but I also dont think hes that kind of player. Hes got nice touch, tidy feet and good at ball recycling but hes also slow and not very physical and his passing is hit and miss.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #478 on: December 15, 2019, 10:49:52 AM »
I dont know about luiz. I dont think weve seen the best of him but I also dont think hes that kind of player. Hes got nice touch, tidy feet and good at ball recycling but hes also slow and not very physical and his passing is hit and miss.
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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #479 on: December 15, 2019, 10:57:03 AM »
We were crying out for a dcm especially after whelan left. We bring 2 internationals in for that position and we still aren't happy. How many dcm's do we want and is that position becoming the equivalent of right back under bruce where we just fill the team with dcm's?
If it's a question of bringing in another dcm to unleash McGinn, perhaps super John needs to return to his early season form (before talk of manure) to see the best of him again and players around him.
A striker is definitely needed, perhaps a speedy winger who can cross a ball and someone who can replace either McGinn or Grealish especially when the former is off form or Jack is out injured.

We are going to need two DM's in some games and with Luiz struggling a bit and Hourihane and Lansbury not really up to the job, we don't have too many options. 

 


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