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Offline Taylor

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2019, 05:05:04 PM »
Jesus, some of these comments. Wolves are a much better team than us, they'll probably be pushing for the Euro places again this season and I wouldn't be surprised if they get into the later stages of the Europa.

Remember where we were this time last year? We're making progress but most of our players have little to no top level experience, Wolves have genuine top quality like Moutinho, Neves, Jiminez, Patricio players who would walk into most teams in the league. Playing them at their place when they're in good form and without so many of our first choice players was always going to be tough. Rotten luck with the injuries made things worse.

Newcastle at home after the international break is the real test of where we're at currently.
This
Absolutely. In the second half we matched them, second goal was a killer when we were pushing for an equaliser.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2019, 05:06:06 PM »
Disappointed with performance today. Individuals... Konsa, Trez and AEG were ok, Konsa best of three.
I think today’s game had the most handballs in one game I’ve ever seen.

I thought that Trezeguet and El Ghazi's lack of defensive effort was pathetic for a large part of the game, and they were toothless going forward.

Last season I thought AEG repeatedly looked lazy, never really tracked back to help the full back. Then Smith clearly got through to him and he started working much harder and looking the part in that amazing run.

On and off this season though, that half arsed attitude has resurfaced. Today was a good example of that.

Have to agree though, that front three today looked awful. I am not writing Trezeguet off yet in terms of this talent, but when he and AEG both fail to put in a shift the result is pretty horrible.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2019, 05:06:58 PM »
Did he really, though? Not in the match I was watching. Looked uncomfortable in possession, not good going forward, can't really pass a football. A poor player.

But if that's what equates to playing well in your eyes, the best of luck to you.

Defensively, I thought he helped us contain them 2nd half and pretty much had Traore in his pocket. There was one occasion where he was left 2 against 1 and still managed to keep them out. I'd prefer to see him play in our away games where the defence are under more pressure and play Targett at home where his attacking intent is more important to us.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2019, 05:07:46 PM »
Jesus, some of these comments. Wolves are a much better team than us, they'll probably be pushing for the Euro places again this season and I wouldn't be surprised if they get into the later stages of the Europa.

Remember where we were this time last year? We're making progress but most of our players have little to no top level experience, Wolves have genuine top quality like Moutinho, Neves, Jiminez, Patricio players who would walk into most teams in the league. Playing them at their place when they're in good form and without so many of our first choice players was always going to be tough. Rotten luck with the injuries made things worse.

Newcastle at home after the international break is the real test of where we're at currently.
Hmmmm, I smell dog shit

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2019, 05:08:39 PM »
The front 3 were an embarrassment today. Money needs to be spent in January on a striker and at least one wide player.

thought our widemen were ok in the second half to be honest. AEG made at least three decent chances by good running with the ball, Trez scored one and with a bit more composure should have got a second after AEGs run. Wolves were tiring granted but they offered some bit of a threat at least. Wesley was diabolical and it was far from the worst performance Ive seen from him this season.

The real sickener was the failure of the team to front up in the first half. A derby game away from home but too many of our players looked like they didnt fancy the battle. Wolves annihilated us first half, lets not try and hide away from that. So much wrong tactically but workrate was abysmal throughout the pitch. Second half was much improved but Wolves always seemed to have more quality with the likes of Traore and Jimenez. Konsa, last five mins aside, was very good I thought. The much maligned Taylor showed a good bit more resistance on the left.

Steer/Nyland 6 - tough on Steer, Nyland didnt make any serious ricks
Guilbert 6 - struggled early on against Joto but with no support, thought he battled well throughout though
Konsa 7 - sharp on the ball, good strength and quick, possibly could/should have blocked second
Mings 6 - struggled with Jimenez for much of the game, battled on despite injury at end which a few could learn from
Targett 3 - hopeless, scared stiff of Traore and Doherty, horror show of a performance
Luiz 4 - likes an armchair role in midfield where he can spray passes but not have to run or tackle, exposed badly, weak as piss for their second. Flattering to deceive
Nakamba 6 - poor first half but thought he was doing well in second until surprisingly replaced
McGinn 5 - utterly anonymous in first half, dropped deeper in second but again impact was limited enough. fitness needs improving, watch him for their second
Trez - 5 - 3 for his first half, 7 for the second
AEG - see Trez
Wes 4 - ambled around a bit, gave out to ref, poor technique for great chance

Taylor 6 - solid enough and I dont rate him at all. Lansbury 6 - sharp enough at times, unusual to see him come in ahead of Hourihane or Kodjia.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2019, 05:11:01 PM »
Jesus, some of these comments. Wolves are a much better team than us, they'll probably be pushing for the Euro places again this season and I wouldn't be surprised if they get into the later stages of the Europa.

Remember where we were this time last year? We're making progress but most of our players have little to no top level experience, Wolves have genuine top quality like Moutinho, Neves, Jiminez, Patricio players who would walk into most teams in the league. Playing them at their place when they're in good form and without so many of our first choice players was always going to be tough. Rotten luck with the injuries made things worse.

Newcastle at home after the international break is the real test of where we're at currently.
Hmmmm, I smell dog shit

Wolves fans are weird as fuck but my one compliment of them was atleast they hadnt come on here like Blues and Albion fans did and  masqueraded as Villa fans. Seems the divs couldn't even manage that.

Offline BC Villain

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2019, 05:18:16 PM »
When you've got players out its up to the rest to step up.  Basically a lot of our squad players aren't good enough to do that.  Mind you, some the first teamers aren't either.

Wolves have got a lot of quality and can afford to have big hitters out of their side.  We simply don't have that luxury.  However, there are no excuses for that first half display

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2019, 05:20:17 PM »
Trezaguet looks and plays like a bit of a duffus sometimes (especially after he scored our goal) but I don’t think you can knock his effort.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 05:22:11 PM by Taylor »

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2019, 05:21:59 PM »
The front 3 were an embarrassment today. Money needs to be spent in January on a striker and at least one wide player.

thought our widemen were ok in the second half to be honest. AEG made at least three decent chances by good running with the ball, Trez scored one and with a bit more composure should have got a second after AEGs run. Wolves were tiring granted but they offered some bit of a threat at least. Wesley was diabolical and it was far from the worst performance Ive seen from him this season.

The real sickener was the failure of the team to front up in the first half. A derby game away from home but too many of our players looked like they didnt fancy the battle. Wolves annihilated us first half, lets not try and hide away from that. So much wrong tactically but workrate was abysmal throughout the pitch. Second half was much improved but Wolves always seemed to have more quality with the likes of Traore and Jimenez. Konsa, last five mins aside, was very good I thought. The much maligned Taylor showed a good bit more resistance on the left.

Steer/Nyland 6 - tough on Steer, Nyland didnt make any serious ricks
Guilbert 6 - struggled early on against Joto but with no support, thought he battled well throughout though
Konsa 7 - sharp on the ball, good strength and quick, possibly could/should have blocked second
Mings 6 - struggled with Jimenez for much of the game, battled on despite injury at end which a few could learn from
Targett 3 - hopeless, scared stiff of Traore and Doherty, horror show of a performance
Luiz 4 - likes an armchair role in midfield where he can spray passes but not have to run or tackle, exposed badly, weak as piss for their second. Flattering to deceive
Nakamba 6 - poor first half but thought he was doing well in second until surprisingly replaced
McGinn 5 - utterly anonymous in first half, dropped deeper in second but again impact was limited enough. fitness needs improving, watch him for their second
Trez - 5 - 3 for his first half, 7 for the second
AEG - see Trez
Wes 4 - ambled around a bit, gave out to ref, poor technique for great chance

Taylor 6 - solid enough and I dont rate him at all. Lansbury 6 - sharp enough at times, unusual to see him come in ahead of Hourihane or Kodjia.
I think this is a good summary and I agree with all of it except you generously gave Wesley 4. I'm not sure how he's scored this season let alone to have 4 and what are Brazil thinking? I remember at Arsenal he was really poor and then got a reprieve by scoring.

AEG was much better in the second half but the first half was inexcusable from everyone. They allowed Doherty to camp in our half and similarly offered little protection on our right flank.

For their second Luiz was really poor and should at least have tactically fouled like their players did a few times in the second half.

The disability match at half time was more entertaining than the first half,  but then even that was spoiled by a couple of fans round us loudly urging the Villa youth players to break the legs of their Wolves counterparts.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 05:25:21 PM by rougegorge »

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2019, 05:22:16 PM »
Terrible first half, they were so much better than us it was embarrassing. Improved second half but didn't deserve anything from the match.

What I would say is that surely we should have had a penalty when Trez went down in second half? Ref said their defender touched it but from what I could see Trez did and their defender took him out.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2019, 05:22:45 PM »
Got the potato ambling into Villa Park, next. He'd love to get one over on us. But he won't. Perfect game to kick start the season I reckon.

Crap today. Thought Konsa, Mings and Guilbert did ok, and that's about it. Left back is a big issue. Targett was embarrassing, and seemed to give up, Taylor is a nightmare to watch.

Wesley needs someone up with him. Luiz isn't as good as I thought he'd be away from home. Mcginn needs a rest it seems.

We missed Jack terribly.

Not a happy man tonight.
Taylor played well you numpty


Did he really, though? Not in the match I was watching. Looked uncomfortable in possession, not good going forward, can't really pass a football. A poor player.

But if that's what equates to playing well in your eyes, the best of luck to you.

Numpty. Oh dear.

Taylor was awful, they walked through him for the second goal, as usual.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2019, 05:23:01 PM »
Trezaguet look and plays like a bit of a duffus sometimes (especially after he scored our goal) but I don’t think you can knock his effort.
I think he has more about him than AEG or Wesley, you can get away with playing one of them but all 3 is asking for trouble.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2019, 05:26:24 PM »
Got the potato ambling into Villa Park, next. He'd love to get one over on us. But he won't. Perfect game to kick start the season I reckon.

Crap today. Thought Konsa, Mings and Guilbert did ok, and that's about it. Left back is a big issue. Targett was embarrassing, and seemed to give up, Taylor is a nightmare to watch.

Wesley needs someone up with him. Luiz isn't as good as I thought he'd be away from home. Mcginn needs a rest it seems.

We missed Jack terribly.

Not a happy man tonight.
Taylor played well you numpty


Did he really, though? Not in the match I was watching. Looked uncomfortable in possession, not good going forward, can't really pass a football. A poor player.

But if that's what equates to playing well in your eyes, the best of luck to you.

Numpty. Oh dear.

Taylor was awful, they walked through him for the second goal, as usual.

Taylor would be a long way down the blame list for the second goal for me, went into a tackle 30 yards outside their goal after a poor McGinn pass. Luiz and McGinn were at fault.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2019, 05:27:27 PM »
When you've got players out its up to the rest to step up.  Basically a lot of our squad players aren't good enough to do that.  Mind you, some the first teamers aren't either.

Wolves have got a lot of quality and can afford to have big hitters out of their side.  We simply don't have that luxury.  However, there are no excuses for that first half display

What big hitters are out the Wolves side, Boly is about it. Since promotion one of the reasons they've done so well is how few injuries they've had as their squad depth is worse than ours. Even today they had a few inexperienced players on the bench.

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Re: Wolves v Aston Villa Post Match Thread
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2019, 05:28:39 PM »
Terrible marking on Jimenez for the second goal. Who was picking him up??

 


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