Aston Villa v Liverpool Post Match Thread

[OzVilla]

I don’t know, against Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool I didn’t think the substitutions were great. Wrong players and in 2 cases at the wrong times. Surely that’s 100% on Smith. Haven’t we given up more points from winning positions in the 2nd half than anyone else?

[Nii Lamptey]

Slept on this, and noted a few things...

- Easily Wesley’s most energetic/physical performance for us.
- Lansbury’s played well when called upon recently (Palace away, wolves in cup) and maybe should have been the replacement for Luiz rather than Hourihane?
- Where’s McGinn gone? He’ll do something magical in a game then disappear for long periods. Nowhere near the performances at the start of the season.

[aj2k77]

Gutted after yesterday. We have to stop throwing points away. It's all well and good playing well and deserving something but we will be sucked in to the bottom three if this carries on.

[Richard]

I think if games finished at half time we would have double the points we have now so there is an issue but it's not just down to Smith.

[ChicagoLion]

I don’t know, against Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool I didn’t think the substitutions were great. Wrong players and in 2 cases at the wrong times. Surely that’s 100% on Smith. Haven’t we given up more points from winning positions in the 2nd half than anyone else?

Exactly

[Clampy]

Liverpool deserved something out of it but they didn't deserve all three points. We defended so well but obviously the missed chances cost us. I'm not too downhearted though because I honestly think we'll be fine.

[dorsetvillian]

Still gutted at the result. Played well enough for at least a point. Heaton had very little to do, despite Liverpool possession. I thought we always looked likely to get a second on the break. Jack would have maybe been the difference. Met Ads from here.

[Ads]

Where are all these tourists and glory hunters (if the comments are correct) getting their tickets from in the Villa end? It’s hard enough to get a ticket for games as a claret member so how are so many getting hold of tickets they shouldn’t have?

I can't say I noticed any in the Holte. However, if there were away fans in our end then they will have been provided tickets by season ticket holders or members.

In years gone by I don't think we could complain massively as we would only sell out 3 or 4 times a year against the "glamour" clubs. Given we have 30,000 season tickets and circa 9,000 members and a 7,000 season ticket waiting list, getting home tickets now is anything but the guarantee it was. We've sold out every home game since April.

If you've sold seats on ro Liverpool fans, you should be banned. You've denied some genuine Villa fan who now has no guarantee of getting in.

[Ads]

Still gutted at the result. Played well enough for at least a point. Heaton had very little to do, despite Liverpool possession. I thought we always looked likely to get a second on the break. Jack would have maybe been the difference. Met Ads from here.

Your "I met Ads and survived" t-shirt is in the post. Good to meet a fellow exile. I hope my lad is still as interested as yours 17 years down the line!

[postal]

Heaton was immense, and all the team put a shift in, maybe Wesley should have been subbed earlier as he was knackered.

Obviously it would have been wrong to risk an injured Jack, and he might have made a difference when we had chances to break.

But it showed that the team are an organised unit. 

[Villa Lew]

Massive blow, but to put in a performance like that, with Jack out and SJM not at his best, was very impressive. Should have gone 5 at the back at the end and although it was a superb header from Mane, having someone on the post would have stopped that.

Marvelous was superb, but the biggest plus was Trez, who gave his best performance in a Villa shirt.

[Axl Rose]

Good performance by villa though. Credit where credit is due

stats say different

stats  don’t show it took champions of Europe almost the full 90 to beat us and when they did only by a single goal. Most expected a hammering, I know I did.

they show how outclassed we were and the game is 90 mins it irrelevant how long it took them to beat us
 the fact is they did as the stats show

Outclassed? I don't think so.


possession 74%-26%
Passing 631--227 (accuracy 83%--58%)
shots  25--5

Fair enough.

But I'd have thought outclassed would have meant us chasing shadows, not having a sniff of a goal, conceding a hatful, no counter attacks etc etc.

None of the above happened. I don't think we'd be so disappointed if we were outclassed, but each to his own.

[Ads]

The bit where Wesley charged down four or five Liverpool players, the roar that he received and the way the ground lifted must show him that endeavour is all we ever want. He must deliver that work ethic consistently. You wont get much change out of Thunderbird 2,  but against Wolves, Newcastle et al, that pressure of effort will tell.

[CJ]

I think we missed Jack hugely - especially towards the end when we were under the cosh, clearing the ball long and it coming straight back at us.  We desperately needed someone who could bring the ball out. Still proud of the team performance though. Terrific atmosphere too.

[simboy]

Good performance by villa though. Credit where credit is due

stats say different

stats  don’t show it took champions of Europe almost the full 90 to beat us and when they did only by a single goal. Most expected a hammering, I know I did.

they show how outclassed we were and the game is 90 mins it irrelevant how long it took them to beat us
 the fact is they did as the stats show

Outclassed? I don't think so.


possession 74%-26%
Passing 631--227 (accuracy 83%--58%)
shots  25--5

Fair enough.

But I'd have thought outclassed would have meant us chasing shadows, not having a sniff of a goal, conceding a hatful, no counter attacks etc etc.

None of the above happened. I don't think we'd be so disappointed if we were outclassed, but each to his own.

We were “outclassed” last time we played this lot in the league. This time we lost.