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Offline Axl Rose

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2019, 08:53:33 AM »
I'm hearing from a reliable source certain players are getting a little frustrated with DS, one being Mcginn and his post match interview would confirm this.

Somehthing don't feel right

Interesting that you didn't post anything about it until you heard McGinn's interview. Just saying.

I didn't think much of it to be honest then seen the interview and thought maybe there is something up and a few unhappy chaps.

Only time will tell

In a way, I'm glad they're unhappy. Why should they be happy after losing 4 out of 6, and not getting the rub of the green on a number of important occasions?

They'll come roaring back!

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2019, 08:58:02 AM »
All I'll say is I know someone who works indirectly for the club and thing's have apparently been a little odd since Palace.

And he's not known for bullshiting! (not even a football fan, so has no real interest in what goes on)

This.

This is the sort of things that kills clubs. The polite way of describing it in journalism is 'unattributed sources', in other industries it's called 'market sentiment' and in still others a 'whispering campaign' but what it really is is idle gossip. It's pure speculation because it has no substance but nevertheless purports to be real. It never is.

Shit-stirring is what my granny used to call it out as, and she was right.

It's attention-seeking behaviour which has the unfortunate side-effect of pitting one viewpoint or faction in a club against another; it's destructive, corrosive and effective. My question is; 'Why would someone who supposedly supports the club shit-stir against the manager like this?' and I have no good answer for that. No good answer at all.



I know where you're coming from and agree to a point however there are several scenarios here. Yes, it could be/may well be shit stirring or it could be a genuine comment and the poster is protecting their source or the poster is themselves believing the source but is being conned.

Who knows?

Offline AllanW

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2019, 09:02:17 AM »

Yes, it could be/may well be shit stirring or it could be a genuine comment and the poster is protecting their source or the poster is themselves believing the source but is being conned.


Yes. Direct shit-stirrer or credulous shit-spreader are the possibilities :)

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2019, 09:04:05 AM »
clubs can go into a death spiral very quickly once a rot starts - Huddersfield being a prime example, one win in  2019. If we lose both games this week, then there is an argument that the spiral has started.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2019, 09:06:24 AM »
clubs can go into a death spiral very quickly once a rot starts - Huddersfield being a prime example, one win in  2019. If we lose both games this week, then there is an argument that the spiral has started.

Hurrah! You are Fraser from Dad's Army and I claim my £5 ...

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #245 on: September 23, 2019, 09:07:00 AM »
Kin ell it’s not that bad. We’ve just lost 3-2 away at Arsenal in a game we should’ve won. We are all frustrated but let’s not talk death spirals just yet.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #246 on: September 23, 2019, 09:07:43 AM »
I don't know whether things between Smith and the players are right or not, but I thought his comments about why he left Luiz out were a bit  concerning (words to the effect that he's got plenty of other midfielders so decided to leave him out)

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #247 on: September 23, 2019, 09:09:40 AM »
I'm not affliated to Dad's Army but I have every right to express an opinion.

Offline Davkaus

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #248 on: September 23, 2019, 09:10:27 AM »
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Yet it's not something VAR overturns.  They're too busy making sure a striker's individual leg hairs are all onside.

It's a farce. Use it properly, or scrap it.
Var can't tell the ref that he's missed a clear handball? I thought that was the whole point of it. To help the ref when he's made a clear and obvious error.

It should be. By the words of the guidance given on VAR, that should have been corrected.

How it's actually used it as a big circular pat on the back. Referees reviewing referees, and telling each other that they're doing a great job. It's a massive waste of time when it's just being used to cover each others arses.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #249 on: September 23, 2019, 09:11:03 AM »
You have permission to speak sir. Just don’t talk bollocks.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #250 on: September 23, 2019, 09:11:21 AM »
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #251 on: September 23, 2019, 09:16:00 AM »
I don't know whether things between Smith and the players are right or not, but I thought his comments about why he left Luiz out were a bit  concerning (words to the effect that he's got plenty of other midfielders so decided to leave him out)

Think he was just stating he wanted two defenders, two midfields and two attacking players on the bench which I think is fairly reasonable. Luiz not being one of the two was the wrong call though.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #252 on: September 23, 2019, 09:25:16 AM »
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #253 on: September 23, 2019, 09:31:52 AM »
Disappointed with losing the game when it was there for the taking we should have kept on doing what we were doing attacking them they look troubled when we went at them I'm not one for having a go at the players or manager we will improve I'm positive we will be Ok this season.

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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
« Reply #254 on: September 23, 2019, 09:32:52 AM »
Cardiff were the victims of some awful decisions last season and it seems we have replaced them this season.In the 6 games so far we have had Aitkinson fail to send Billings of Bournemouth off,that idiot Friend rob us of a goal among other bad decisions and now another idiot Moss rob us of a blatant penalty

 


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