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Topic: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread (Read 37521 times)
jwarry
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #30 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:30:49 PM »
Well trying to be level headed about this, there is no doubt we are a far better team than the one that went down three years ago. We clearly have quality but we are not yet quite a team and Dean is still learning but boy do we need a couple of back to back wins to lift our confidence
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ChicagoLion
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #31 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:30:56 PM »
I think the only Villa fan that did not work out that we needed to change was Smith.
He was frozen to the spot as we were being over run by 10 men, if he could not see what every one else could see then he is in the wrong job.
He just threw away 3 points, pathetic.
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phantom limb
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:30:57 PM »
I’m tired of watching players making mistakes that get immediately punished, time after time after time.
It’s not even just about this team, it’s a mentality that Aston Villa itself needs to get out of.
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andyh
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:31:36 PM »
I don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water and overreact to that, but that was fucking shit.
A distinct lack of quality and leadership all over the pitch and from off it.
Crap individual decisions and what looks like a real problem with fitness.
Like all of you, I am so pissed off after that.
They let us down today.
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john2710
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:31:37 PM »
We don't seem fit enough to last the 90+ mins, even against 10 men. Smith must see that & then bring on fresh legs but somehow doesn't make the changes.
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Axl Rose
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #35 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:31:39 PM »
Exhausted. In a completely negative way.
They were there for the taking. I don't understand this bringing on of Elmohamady on the wing. It doesn't hurt to change the formation, solidify the midfield, etc etc.
Thank fuck today is a holiday and I don't have to go to work.
******.
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PeterWithesShin
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:31:46 PM »
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PM
Really over the top reactions.
We spent all the second half against 10 men, the 10 men did us 3-1 in that half, what reaction are you expecting?
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VillaBoy_23
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #37 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:31:47 PM »
Quote from: aj2k77 on September 22, 2019, 06:29:25 PM
Really over the top reactions.
How do you expect people to react?
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CJ
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:31:59 PM »
Didn't expect anything from that before the game, but we should have come away with at least a point. Dreadful game management from Smith - everyone could see we were getting deeper and deeper and he did fuck all about it. He seems to have one, and only one, formation; doesn't change it to suit the circumstances; and makes substitutions too late. Yes, Arsenal are a good side, but how come we were the ones blowing out of our arses against 10 men for an hour? I'm now officially starting to get worried
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walsall villain
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:32:04 PM »
Had years of this but it still sickens me. Only Villa can fold so consistently. 6 games is enough to judge, plenty of effort but we aren’t good enough, sorry but we do look like Fulham
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villadelph
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #40 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:32:26 PM »
We could barely get the ball and we’re supposed to be an “attacking” team.
We’re cooked.
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ktvillan
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:32:41 PM »
It's two games in a row where we've completely lost our shape and composure in the last 20-25 minutes against 10 men. Totally unacceptable from Smith. We're bottom three and we deserve to be. He won't be here by November if he carries on like this, and he won't deserve to be.
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four fornicholl
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Reply #42 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:32:48 PM »
Schoolboy football.
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taylorsworkrate
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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September 22, 2019, 06:32:56 PM »
Completely unacceptable last 30 minutes. Arsenal looked like they were playing with 12 men and we had 8. What the fuck is going on in training (or not going on) for us to be so fucking woefully out of shape?
Have to agree with the blame being put towards Smith. What the fuck is bringing Elmohamedy on about? What the fuck is not freshening the midfield fucking about? What the fuck is bringing on a midfielder for an attacking player once we are fucking behind about?
There does have to be individual blame for the players again though. Mings and Engels were excellent in the first half, but then both massively at fault for the 1st two goals with braindead errors. Engels gave the ball away needlessly and then made a tackle he didn't need to giving away the penalty. Mings fucking trying to head the ball to Taylor in his own box was pathetic for their 2nd.
Think we are going down unless things change drastically.
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Rudy65
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Re: Arsenal v Aston Villa Post-Surrender Thread
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Reply #44 on:
September 22, 2019, 06:33:00 PM »
I thought the idea with 10 men was to pass it around and make them run thereby tiring them out. How come the opposite happened. Arse surrendered at Watford last week in the second half but ran the show today
I love SJM but he looked knackered after an hour. He either isnt fit enough, which is unlikely, or he needs to conserve his energy much better. Basic stuff really
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