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Author Topic: Anyone starting to get worried?  (Read 100928 times)

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2019, 09:41:42 AM »
So 10% of the season gone, played a top 4 side, a side looking to break into top 6 and 2 sides that you’d expect we’d be competing to stay up with. P4-W1-L3.

We’ve not had much luck but that’s still a disappointing return. We needed to get off to a good start, we haven’t and at times we’ve looked naive. So anybody starting to get worried yet?

102 pts left to play for in 34 matches (81pts from 27 if we write off top 4 matches)
Villa need to be achieving 35-38 points avoid drop
For argument sake how worried are we in getting 8 wins and 9 draws from remaining matches? Be it 27 or full 34 matches.

Focusing on home matches up to and including boxing day.
Villa have 8 matches at home- with 1 against top 4 team Liverpool. Perhaps Leicester City as a top 6 contender could also be considered a more difficult match.
That said the other 6 are all matches to accumulate points  by boxing Day and before new year 2020.
From overall 8 matches taking 4 to 5 wins and a few draws would be decent . 15-18pts
Winning 6+ home matches before new year and we're doing very well.

Mon 16 Sep 20:00   
WHU (H)   
Sat 28 Sep 15:00      
BUR (H)   
Sat 19 Oct 15:00      
BHA (H)   
Sat 2 Nov 15:00      
LIV (H)   
Sat 23 Nov 15:00      
NEW (H)   
Sat 7 Dec 15:00      
LEI (H)   
Sat 21 Dec 15:00      
SOU (H)   
Thu 26 Dec 15:00      
NOR (H)      

Our home form is particularly important so to pick up as many wins as we can in this period, especially as fixtures are favourable, can give as strong platform to remain in league.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2019, 09:43:45 AM by Vill I An »

Offline Nastylee

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2019, 09:42:14 AM »
36 points seems a long way away.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
Worried? Not in the slightest, not after 4 games anyway. We'll improve as the season goes on.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2019, 09:49:02 AM »
36 points seems a long way away.

As it does for many clubs, we’re one point from 10th place.

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2019, 09:49:30 AM »
36 points seems a long way away.

Not necessarily 36 points!
Yes in past 24 seasons, the 18th-placed team, the highest to go down, have averaged 35.5 points

Though very recent history , the last 3 Premier League seasons, the minimum points needed to be safe:

2018/19 34 pts
2017/18 34pts
2016/17 35pts

"Premier league history has shown that since the league was cut to 20 teams in 1995/96, the average points required to avoid the drop has been much lower than 40."
It is not since 2002/3 season that over 40 pts was needed . That season 43 points needed to stay in league.


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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2019, 09:50:15 AM »
I'll be worried if we haven't picked up a few points by the conclusion of the Brighton game. We have a run of mostly horrible looking games after that.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2019, 09:55:00 AM »
We've a lot of learning to come as individuals, team and club throughout this season. Some of that is going to be painful.I do think that the club is now set up to accommodate it and progress though. So not worried but expecting a tough season with regular lows and a few highs.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2019, 09:56:38 AM »
We have a capable squad I would like DS to make changes early when players are not performing.
This for me. He doesn’t react when we’re under the cosh and he should have subbed Tres at half time yesterday as he was booked and playing crap

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2019, 10:01:05 AM »
If we had come up after being out of this League for more than say 10 years no one would worry about  the current state however we are burdened with recent experience and that is making people keeping looking towards loo door.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2019, 10:13:25 AM »
I am but then I worry about everything Villa related.



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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2019, 10:23:28 AM »
Another point would have been nice as if we can average 2 points per game we will stay up but it’s not terrible and still early days.

2 points per game we''d be going for the Champions' League!

Offline Vill I An

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2019, 10:24:11 AM »
We have a capable squad I would like DS to make changes early when players are not performing.
This for me. He doesn’t react when we’re under the cosh and he should have subbed Tres at half time yesterday as he was booked and playing crap

Make of this what you will.
The goal conceded away  against Palace was in the 73rd minute
The 1st goal conceded away this season was v Spurs also in the 73rd minute.

The Premier league season so far :
Between minutes 31st to 70th minute there has been no goal scored or conceded by Villa.
It's a small sample of data as only 4 matches but interesting nonetheless.

Villa have scored 50% of goals in first 30 minutes of matches and 50% from 70th minute to 90th of matches .

Scored:
Spurs 9'
Bournemouth 71'
Everton 21' 90'

Villa have conceded 36% of goals in first 30 minutes and conceded 64% of goals from 70th to 90th minute.

Goals conceded minutes
Bournemouth 1' 12'
Palace 73'
Spurs 73' 86' 90'

Similar pattern In league cup tend to have goals be it for or against in first half hour of a match or in final 20 minutes.
 
Aston Villa scored v Crewe
4 ' 24'  45' 69' 76' minutes), Grealish (87' minutes)
And conceded '84
« Last Edit: September 01, 2019, 10:26:33 AM by Vill I An »

Offline Baldy

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2019, 10:24:41 AM »
No. We would be equal 11th and happy campers if it wasn't for that shocking/disgraceful decision yesterday.

With more new players than any other side in the league we have loads of room for development and can only improve as the season progresses.

Would help immensely if Friend was banned from officiating at any future Villa matches and also prevent him from inciting a possible riot.   >:(

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2019, 10:30:34 AM »
The Bournemouth result is the one thats really fucked us to this point. My early thoughts going into the International break is that it's going to be close. I agree with Risso, specifically for me we need a player that can really protect the defence in that defensive midfield role and i think we need wide attacking players that will really stretch the opposition defence and score goals. These are the 2 areas that are letting us down the most. I actually think that the midfielders we have are good enough but we don't specifically have a real breaker up of play in there, a younger and 'premier league standard version' of Jedinak for example. Trezeguet has a lot of potential and should improve over time but we still look like we need more (and better) options in those positions as well. The ball comes back way too easily from those areas, this is a problem that has remained from last season.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2019, 10:39:23 AM »
I’m still 50/50. Yesterday felt like a bad one partly because we were robbed at the end, partly because of the way we let them back into the game both halves.

But I said before the game a draw was a good result, 4 points from 4 would have been good based on the fixtures, and we only missed out on being in that position through incompetent reffing.

Win next game in convincing fashion and we’re back where we should be, lose and it starts to look dicey.

 


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