Quote from: Chris Smith on August 12, 2019, 07:49:55 AMQuote from: sid1964 on August 12, 2019, 07:14:40 AMLet us see what Wes is like when we create a chance for him, not just firing the ball at him 5 yards above his head.A few things disappointed me on Saturday, why did we keep aiming our goal kicks out to the Elmohamady (was this not a Bruce tactic), why were not capable of passing the ball out from the penalty area? also Hourihane is not a central, defensive midfield player, I did not know he was on pitch in the second half and Jota is not a wide midfield player, he does not have the pace to play that position, for me he is a similar type of footballer to Grealish, and therefore needs to compete with Grealish for a position in the team.The amount of times we won the ball back and then 10 seconds later we gave the ball back to Spurs was so disappointing.It will be interesting to see what team Dean picks for the Bournemouth game.All of the issues you mention were down to the effectiveness of the high pressing game Spurs used. I doubt we will play a team more adept at it.But pretty much all of the teams will play a version of it.A steep learning curve, and when players like Wes do get the ball they have to make sure it sticks.I wasn't particularly disappointed after the game; as long as the lessons are learned and adopted, quickly, it'll have been the best game we played.
Quote from: sid1964 on August 12, 2019, 07:14:40 AMLet us see what Wes is like when we create a chance for him, not just firing the ball at him 5 yards above his head.A few things disappointed me on Saturday, why did we keep aiming our goal kicks out to the Elmohamady (was this not a Bruce tactic), why were not capable of passing the ball out from the penalty area? also Hourihane is not a central, defensive midfield player, I did not know he was on pitch in the second half and Jota is not a wide midfield player, he does not have the pace to play that position, for me he is a similar type of footballer to Grealish, and therefore needs to compete with Grealish for a position in the team.The amount of times we won the ball back and then 10 seconds later we gave the ball back to Spurs was so disappointing.It will be interesting to see what team Dean picks for the Bournemouth game.All of the issues you mention were down to the effectiveness of the high pressing game Spurs used. I doubt we will play a team more adept at it.
Let us see what Wes is like when we create a chance for him, not just firing the ball at him 5 yards above his head.A few things disappointed me on Saturday, why did we keep aiming our goal kicks out to the Elmohamady (was this not a Bruce tactic), why were not capable of passing the ball out from the penalty area? also Hourihane is not a central, defensive midfield player, I did not know he was on pitch in the second half and Jota is not a wide midfield player, he does not have the pace to play that position, for me he is a similar type of footballer to Grealish, and therefore needs to compete with Grealish for a position in the team.The amount of times we won the ball back and then 10 seconds later we gave the ball back to Spurs was so disappointing.It will be interesting to see what team Dean picks for the Bournemouth game.
Quote from: Mister E on August 12, 2019, 08:20:55 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on August 12, 2019, 07:49:55 AMQuote from: sid1964 on August 12, 2019, 07:14:40 AMLet us see what Wes is like when we create a chance for him, not just firing the ball at him 5 yards above his head.A few things disappointed me on Saturday, why did we keep aiming our goal kicks out to the Elmohamady (was this not a Bruce tactic), why were not capable of passing the ball out from the penalty area? also Hourihane is not a central, defensive midfield player, I did not know he was on pitch in the second half and Jota is not a wide midfield player, he does not have the pace to play that position, for me he is a similar type of footballer to Grealish, and therefore needs to compete with Grealish for a position in the team.The amount of times we won the ball back and then 10 seconds later we gave the ball back to Spurs was so disappointing.It will be interesting to see what team Dean picks for the Bournemouth game.All of the issues you mention were down to the effectiveness of the high pressing game Spurs used. I doubt we will play a team more adept at it.But pretty much all of the teams will play a version of it.A steep learning curve, and when players like Wes do get the ball they have to make sure it sticks.I wasn't particularly disappointed after the game; as long as the lessons are learned and adopted, quickly, it'll have been the best game we played.Agree with all that.It just surprised me the athleticism and physicality of their approach, not something we traditionally associate with a Spurs team.
Never intended to imply you were CL. Apologies if you thought my observation was aimed at you. One thing we should have learned over the last dozen horrible years is to stop the Get Rid mentality shaping our future.Even if players underperform the skill is to get value for them. Fat Sam's milk bottles and pop bottles.
Easy to forget Spurs are the only reason Man City didn't do the quadruple last season. That's the calibre of the side we lost to.
Quote from: danno on August 12, 2019, 09:23:54 AMEasy to forget Spurs are the only reason Man City didn't do the quadruple last season. That's the calibre of the side we lost to.That and VAR.
Not to mention that SJM after the game said that they sat back too much under the pressure. They didn't want to play like that, just sometimes games get out of your control - and s first game back in the top flight, with a team still gelling, away at one of the next and most relentless sides on earth is an acceptable game to get out of your control.
On a slight diversion, nothing sums up the modern game than the picture of SJM, on his knees, celebrating his goal in front of the massed Spurs fans. Their reaction? Nothing, emotionless faces, staring empty eyed at our player, no visible anger, disappointment, remonstration or even open mouthed shock. There are even mild smiles that I want to put down to Villa fans in their end but is probably unlikely.In know the white spittled, puce with anger faces of the furious fan can often be an unedifying sight but good lord, what have we become?
Quote from: Nev on August 12, 2019, 11:48:56 AMOn a slight diversion, nothing sums up the modern game than the picture of SJM, on his knees, celebrating his goal in front of the massed Spurs fans. Their reaction? Nothing, emotionless faces, staring empty eyed at our player, no visible anger, disappointment, remonstration or even open mouthed shock. There are even mild smiles that I want to put down to Villa fans in their end but is probably unlikely.In know the white spittled, puce with anger faces of the furious fan can often be an unedifying sight but good lord, what have we become?Haha, I was in the second box up from that end on the opposite sideline. Silence when we scored, only to be interrupted by my very loud 'Yeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!' and fists raised high in the air. I don't think they knew what to make of it to be honest.Was particularly sweet as a Spurs fan in the box with us introduced himself to us and told us straight off they were going to beat us easily. He sat in mostly silence for most of the match.