Quote from: Drummond on August 25, 2020, 07:06:25 AMQuote from: algy on August 24, 2020, 07:25:56 PMI think you have to look at what message it sends to younger players coming through the club if you'd rather spend money on a non-performing Championship keeper then give them a shot. I'm happy with Heaton/Steer as the first 2 choices. In honesty, I'm probably ok with Nyland as a third choice too, although I'd have preferred Sarkic. He's alright as an emergency backup sub keeper, even if I'd rather not see him actually playing ever. I just don't see that spending money in that position is a particularly good use of funds right now. We have an England international and a keeper who would probably be first choice in at least a couple of PL sides. For me, there's half a dozen other positions that are more pressing.When you go to the supermarket knowing you need vegetables, chips, coffee, beer and bog roll as part of your shopping, do you walk past all of them and go to the beer first because that's what you've completely run out of? Or do you pick up all the things you need knowing you can get the beer when it's time?I'd liken it more to - you've got £10 and you need vegetables, chips, bog roll, coffee and beer. Do you buy some more cod even though there's already some in the freezer?We've not got an absolutely limitless budget, I'd rather bring in 3 or 4 quality players in our weakest areas than repeat last season again. It was necessary to buy a dozen players filling practically every position then - it isn't now.
Quote from: algy on August 24, 2020, 07:25:56 PMI think you have to look at what message it sends to younger players coming through the club if you'd rather spend money on a non-performing Championship keeper then give them a shot. I'm happy with Heaton/Steer as the first 2 choices. In honesty, I'm probably ok with Nyland as a third choice too, although I'd have preferred Sarkic. He's alright as an emergency backup sub keeper, even if I'd rather not see him actually playing ever. I just don't see that spending money in that position is a particularly good use of funds right now. We have an England international and a keeper who would probably be first choice in at least a couple of PL sides. For me, there's half a dozen other positions that are more pressing.When you go to the supermarket knowing you need vegetables, chips, coffee, beer and bog roll as part of your shopping, do you walk past all of them and go to the beer first because that's what you've completely run out of? Or do you pick up all the things you need knowing you can get the beer when it's time?
I think you have to look at what message it sends to younger players coming through the club if you'd rather spend money on a non-performing Championship keeper then give them a shot. I'm happy with Heaton/Steer as the first 2 choices. In honesty, I'm probably ok with Nyland as a third choice too, although I'd have preferred Sarkic. He's alright as an emergency backup sub keeper, even if I'd rather not see him actually playing ever. I just don't see that spending money in that position is a particularly good use of funds right now. We have an England international and a keeper who would probably be first choice in at least a couple of PL sides. For me, there's half a dozen other positions that are more pressing.
We need Steer to survive 3 or 4 games then Heaton is back. We then have a good No1 & No2. Of course there's a chnace they'll both get injured at the same time, but that's the same in all positions really. When we have an outstanding keeper nearing fitness and a very capable understudy, I just don't see it as best use of our funds.
I would offer Stoke £5m for Butland and let Cutler do his thing. Young enough to get back to being a top keeper and would give us a very decent 1 and 2.
Yes, I'd be happy with Steer covering for Heaton if he picks up another injury.Possibly Butland be better, but would he want to come and compete with Heaton?I'd just rather us spend the £10m we may spend on a keeper ensuring we get our main targets rather than missing them over a few million here and there like we seemed to last season. (By all accounts we chose not to pay £10m for Watkins and c £20m for Benrahma / Maupay hoping that Brentford would cave in and they didn't)
I think Cutler would have his hands full with Butland.He comes over as pretty fragile to me.
Quote from: in exile on August 25, 2020, 02:12:02 PMI think Cutler would have his hands full with Butland.He comes over as pretty fragile to me.I agree, I think that when a keeper's confidence goes, it's a massive uphill struggle to get it back. We saw it with Enks and Carson, and I'd say lack of belief is the main issue stopping Nyland being a really top keeper. Confidence and the ability to command the back line are really important attributes for keepers. Despite his lack of athleticism, these traits made the defence look better with Reina in goal after the restart.
Maybe getting Butland in as an eventual replacement for Heaton makes sense. Have a good crack at rebuilding his confidence.
Quote from: Risso on August 25, 2020, 02:18:44 PMQuote from: in exile on August 25, 2020, 02:12:02 PMI think Cutler would have his hands full with Butland.He comes over as pretty fragile to me.I agree, I think that when a keeper's confidence goes, it's a massive uphill struggle to get it back. We saw it with Enks and Carson, and I'd say lack of belief is the main issue stopping Nyland being a really top keeper. Confidence and the ability to command the back line are really important attributes for keepers. Despite his lack of athleticism, these traits made the defence look better with Reina in goal after the restart.Even playing Sunday League, having a vocal and confident lad behind me when playing centre half made a massive difference, as opposed to looking round and seeing someone shaking like a shitting Alsation.
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