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Offline Baldy

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2019, 07:33:45 AM »
No. In addition to the many good reasons outlined above Villa have fantastic home and away support which will 'drive' the players on for some extra Premier League points. Fulham never had that.

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2019, 07:58:30 AM »
Maybe, maybe not. The scale of the restructuring means it's quite hard to know one way or another if it'll work. To me, we could finish anywhere from maybe 8th-20th and it wouldn't seem a massive surprise.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 08:01:13 AM by algy »

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2019, 08:41:56 AM »
Maybe, maybe not. The scale of the restructuring means it's quite hard to know one way or another if it'll work. To me, we could finish anywhere from maybe 8th-20th and it wouldn't seem a massive surprise.

I agree - signings blend together well after several weeks intense coaching, hit the ground running and Wesley fires, a couple of January addiitions could see us comfortably top half. Conversely we could be in a scrap with the Geordies for bottom place if most of those don't materialise.

Offline john e

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2019, 08:50:58 AM »
I’m quite happy with the squad now
we seem to be pretty strong in midfield and defence but allowing for the getting used to playing together stuff which might take some games to come through

but the season ultimately for me will be defined by how big Wesley does and whoever plays with him

if he scores or makes goals for others then we will be fine, if he struggles to get going then we might find it hard work
he for me will be the key difference between doing ok or struggling near the bottom reaches

and that’s a fair bit of pressure for a young fella,
Watching him the other night I liked his overall game play and feel confident he can drive us forward
but it’s all speculation at this point and time will tell

Offline ktvillan

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2019, 09:19:46 AM »
It's a moot point.  Our squad was full of loan players and ageing players who would no longer hack it in the PL.  We had no choice but to bring in at least 8-10 players if we wanted to have any chance of staying up.  It's been done with a sense of strategy and planning behind it.

In any case in today's market we've hardly gone mad - £22m is the most we've paid, in a world where the likes of Leicester and West Ham have players who cost £40m + Wolves have one who cost  £32m and even Bournemouth signed someone for £25m.


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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2019, 10:01:29 AM »
If spending a lot of money and getting relegated is 'doing a Fulham', then yes there's a real possibility we are.  But as many have said our circumstances are very different and hopefully we're doing our business in a much more measured way.

I agree with John, relying on Wesley feels like a massive gamble to me.  If we don't get Maupay or similar then unless he hits the ground running and stays fit we could be in for a difficult season.


Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2019, 10:34:10 AM »
The betting odds at the moment suggest 4 teams to be below us...sheff..Norwich.. Burnley..Brighton.

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2019, 10:34:53 AM »
I reckon we will finish above Brucecastle.

Top four (not necessarily in this order) will be Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham and Arsenal.

Chelsea and Man U will complete the top six.

West Ham, Leicester, Wolves, Everton and Watford are all in the middle group, chasing the final European spot and maybe finishing above one of the two above if they have a really good season. Though Wolves could slip into the bottom group if they prove unable to cope with the demands of playing in Europe.

That leaves us, Brighton, Burnley, Bournemouth, Palace, Southampton, Sheff United, Norwich and Newcastle battling to avoid the drop, but any could possibly move into the group above and finish midtable.

If you forced me to guess, I'd say Newcastle, Southampton and Brighton will drop.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 10:40:54 AM by cdbullyweefan »

Offline Baldy

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2019, 11:46:01 AM »
48 was the average goals scored by teams in the Premier League last season who finished between 7th and 17th.

Dean Smith wants goals to come from all angles and from all over the pitch. Not just from our main striker.

I guess our goals for next season will be something like:

Wesley 12
McGinn 8
Jack 8
El Ghazi 8
Trezequet/Maupay/Kodjia or Whoever 8
Defenders 6
Hourihane 4

That's 54 goals in 38 games. Nicely spread around and not unrealistic to expect from them players. Comfortable mid table performance!!!!!!
 
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 11:50:29 AM by Baldy »

Offline mallo

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2019, 12:04:58 PM »
This is a decent article on Fulham :

https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/fulham-spent-100m-summer-signings-15378550

They bought players with mostly decent experience but they just didn't gel. They also bought 12 which mostly went straight into the first team which is a massive shake up. I would hope we're keeping the tactics and playing style fairly similar and have bought players to play to a style not just becuase they're 'names'. That said if we get biffed a few times and the pressure is on, who knows what will happen. I would say the first win is crucial for belief, and Wesley to make a good start.

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2019, 12:49:36 PM »
The betting odds at the moment suggest 4 teams to be below us...sheff..Norwich.. Burnley..Brighton.

Would be massively disappointed if we finished below Newcastle with state they're currently in. The only strikers on their books currently are Muto and Dwight Gayle.

Think we're shaping up alright at the back and in midfield now to be competitive in bottom half. Need another striker though as that was a massive downfall in 15/16, spending about 70m but hardly any of it went on proven scorer and we saw evidence of it early enough.

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2019, 02:01:22 PM »
Why isn't this nonsense being aimed at Sheffield United and Norwich, who have signed 7 and 9 players respectively?  With Sheffield United, it's possibly because all of their signings have been utterly SHITE!

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2019, 02:28:10 PM »
Oh I’ve got Sheffield United nailed on for relegation.  Callum is their record signing well he was until they signed the Bournemouth player.

Offline Londonfranky

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2019, 09:50:41 AM »
As a Fulham supporter I thought I’ll put my twopence worth in, I think you’ve gone about the right way, signing mainly English players or foreign players who have played most of their careers in England, or played under Dean Smith, but not in the premiership, all the the foreign players we signed bar mitrovic were pants but with hindsight it looked liked we had done well, also outstanding players from the championship side struggled in the premiership,

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Re: Are we going to do ‘a Fulham?’
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2019, 09:55:40 AM »
All the best for the coming season Franky.  I like Fulham.

 


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