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Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: VAR
« Reply #885 on: October 28, 2019, 04:59:29 PM »
This weekend's VAR catastrophe reminds me of when Lambert was getting stick for shit results using crap long ball football, so he went on a training course/jolly to Germany, and came back and got shit results playing a crap version of tiki-taka.  The VAR team have obviously being getting pelters for not overturning penalty appeals, so now they've gone the other way and are giving penalties out for next to nothing.  It is without any shadow of a doubt, an absolute omnishambles.

what are you on about? He brought back with him the backwards goal kick. Truly innovative

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Re: VAR
« Reply #886 on: October 28, 2019, 05:03:17 PM »
For fucks sake, just look t how it work sin rugby and follow that.  Anyone would think football is corrupt...
I know the games are different, but why the hell can't the ref have a sensible conversation with the VAR official is just beyond me (with the assistance of a video screen in each corner of the ground).  On Saturday it would have been "he's told me he touched the ball, so on the basis we think he's touched it, what is your decision re offside?"

It's so fucking simple yet they refuse to do it, probably as they don't want to be open for critisism when their deliberations are public and possibly because of all the scaremogering about slowing the game down.  Anybody would think morons are in charge.
Because the FA and Pl have handed over the responsibility for controlling VAR to  a commercial enterprise who’s prime motivation is protecting that enterprise and its members.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #887 on: October 28, 2019, 05:19:13 PM »
The most astounding things about VAR are a) how many decisions they still get completely wrong despite looking at it from every angel and at every speed, and b) how inconsistent the decisions still are.  It really shows how shit the standard of refereeing is, and VAR will never work if the officials are useless.

I can just picture the briefing to refs before the weekend - "we're getting stick for not giving blatant penalties the ref has missed, so just to prove them wrong give loads of pens this weekend lads.  That'll shut them up."  The fucking numpties.

At least justice was eventually done with those two farcical awards for ManYew.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: VAR
« Reply #888 on: October 28, 2019, 05:46:45 PM »
Officials for the Liverpool game

Ref: Jonathan Moss
Assistants: Daniel Cook and Eddie Smart
VAR: Martin Atkinson

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Re: VAR
« Reply #889 on: October 28, 2019, 05:47:11 PM »
VAR will turn this into a completely non contact sanitised load of shite.

If that is a penalty in the Brighton / Everton game, then we may as well all go home. Brighton got it because their player rolled around like he'd broken a bone. If he'd have just carried on without a fuss, nothing would have happened.

It's encouraging the cheats. It's pissing me off no end.

Get rid if it until then can find a system that works. 

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Re: VAR
« Reply #890 on: October 30, 2019, 10:30:03 PM »
Var, in theory , is a good idea.

In practice, you have refs watching a screen just looking after their mates. As these mates include Mason, Attwell, Atkinson and Kevin F*cking Friend -who will take their turn in front of the screens as the season goes on- you've got no f*cking chance of the desired outcome.

If you had more than half-a-dozen decent refs in the Prem, that would be a good start. With the twats we're stuck with, what has happened has been oh, so predictable!!

Offline Villafirst

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Re: VAR
« Reply #891 on: October 30, 2019, 11:39:58 PM »
So nice to be free of VAR in tonight's match. I'd much rather watch matches without it. Ruining the enjoyment for me.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #892 on: October 30, 2019, 11:49:58 PM »
Fuck var. Just have the ref adjudicate on his own decision and I think all will be good.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2019, 11:54:34 PM by Alex77 »

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Re: VAR
« Reply #893 on: October 31, 2019, 12:31:37 AM »
So nice to be free of VAR in tonight's match. I'd much rather watch matches without it. Ruining the enjoyment for me.

Absolutely brilliant tonight. When we scored, after a quick glance at the linesman, we could jump around celebrating a certain goal, happy days

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Re: VAR
« Reply #894 on: October 31, 2019, 12:50:42 AM »
So much better tonight with that rubbish tuned off.  Even though it was almost certainly a foul on Luiz in the lead up to their goal, so what?  I'd rather have a goal given against us than the shambles that it is VAR ruin the entire game.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #895 on: October 31, 2019, 07:16:41 AM »
I said it was a foul leading up to their goal as well. Other than that, VAR wasn't missed at all.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #896 on: October 31, 2019, 08:43:58 AM »
VAR or no VAR, how was that Wolves goal allowed to stand?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #897 on: October 31, 2019, 09:57:48 AM »
VAR or no VAR, how was that Wolves goal allowed to stand?

Foul on Doug and the scorer looked offside. I didn't realise that he's got a touch, I thought that Steer just fumbled the shot.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #898 on: October 31, 2019, 10:28:22 AM »
I was always under the impression that VAR was to identify


Dangerous foul play potentially missed by referee in real time
Off the ball incidents of foul play etc
Cheating / play acting
Cases of mistaken identity
And in borderline cases - Offside

Not to

View every single goal
To actually advise the ref of basic fouls during real time
To slow the game down and suck all the fun out of it

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Re: VAR
« Reply #899 on: October 31, 2019, 11:25:22 AM »
VAR or no VAR, how was that Wolves goal allowed to stand?

No idea, but if that had been a league game, all that would have happened is that the Wolves fans would have celebrated, there'd then have been a three minute delay while they checked it, and it being Aston Villa the goal would have stood.  Obviously if we'd scored it, it would have then been ruled out for both the foul and the offside and it being a bit nippy out.

 


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