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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1140 on: June 07, 2019, 10:20:13 AM »
I'm not so sure... We'd have needed to buy a striker anyway that addresses Tammy's short-comings - which were evident in the Championship, let alone at the next step up. The challenge will be getting the right player that will score 15+ goals in the Premier League. £30m-£40m probably.

See, this is where I have to disagree. You say "short-comings" I say "imperfections." I don't think it's fair to say that a 21 year old who scored 26 goals for us last season was evidently anything other than brilliant. If that had been Keinan Davis, we'd all be talking about him as a £50m player.

My other concern is that I'm yet to see a credible suggestion for who else we could buy, in the same kind of price-range. Rondon might hold the ball up better, but is no better a finisher, considerably slower and can't see him having the same impact as Tammy within the squad. Ditto Mitrovic.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 10:46:51 AM by RussellC »

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1141 on: June 07, 2019, 10:36:10 AM »
My other concern is that I'm yet to see a credible suggestion for who else we could buy, in the same kind of price-range.
It's up to someone with a global scouting network at their disposal to answer that.  I don't accept there are no alternatives.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1142 on: June 07, 2019, 10:43:11 AM »
My other concern is that I'm yet to see a credible suggestion for who else we could buy, in the same kind of price-range.
It's up to someone with a global scouting network at their disposal to answer that.  I don't accept there are no alternatives.

I don't disagree that there will be alternatives. Possibly even improvements. I'm just not sure whether we should be looking for them at this stage. Abraham - in my opinion - guaranteed to settle-in. Guaranteed to understand what is required of him by the coaching-staff. Guaranteed to have an instant rapport with the supporters.   Highly-likely (in my opinion) to score 10-15 goals in the Premiership. Guaranteed to make us better at defending set-pieces.

If we were an established mid-table Premier League side I'd be a lot more comfortable with the idea of bringing a relatively unknown striker in from abroad, but as thing stand, I'd be much happier with the idea of spending circa £20m to bring Tammy Abraham in permanently.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1143 on: June 07, 2019, 10:50:38 AM »
If we were an established mid-table Premier League side I'd be a lot more comfortable with the idea of bringing a relatively unknown striker in from abroad, but as thing stand, I'd be much happier with the idea of spending circa £20m to bring Tammy Abraham in permanently.
Fair enough.  It may all be moot anyway because judging by what he posted yesterday he isn't coming here.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1144 on: June 07, 2019, 11:17:58 AM »
If we were an established mid-table Premier League side I'd be a lot more comfortable with the idea of bringing a relatively unknown striker in from abroad, but as thing stand, I'd be much happier with the idea of spending circa £20m to bring Tammy Abraham in permanently.
Fair enough.  It may all be moot anyway because judging by what he posted yesterday he isn't coming here.

Even if Tammy does want to come back and be a regular starter in the Premier League, current circumstances at Chelsea look like meaning that he'll have to spend a season sat on their bench and starting the odd cup game. Quite rightly, his social media posts are phrased to be respectful to both clubs.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1145 on: June 07, 2019, 12:14:47 PM »
Couple of clickbait sites suggesting we are interested in Uruguayan Maxi Gomez. Don’t know anything about him but seems to fit the profile better ie young and hungry and I see his Wiki has been tampered with😁
He would cost about £50m and would have far better teams than us after him. No chance.

If we sell the club right we'd have every chance.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1146 on: June 07, 2019, 01:26:56 PM »
Given Juanfran is scouting la liga for us, I wonder if we have brought in Jota with half an eye on buddying New people up when we sign them?  Bit of a conspiracy theory but fantastic planning by the club.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1147 on: June 07, 2019, 01:50:21 PM »
I would have no issue at all if something was worked out for Tammy but I don’t think he’s a Dean Smith type of player. I just think Dean was smart enough to play to his strengths with the players he had and that it was at Championship level. Also the Tammy is just a super character to have around and is very coachable. But I also have no doubt that there are players out there more technically aligned to the way Dean Smith wants to play. Either way I am sure we will be fine.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1148 on: June 07, 2019, 02:16:25 PM »
Gomez would cost maximum 43 million by contract and probably less. That said, I'd be very surprised if we spent 30 million on a single player this window.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1149 on: June 07, 2019, 02:22:15 PM »
We need to spend at least that to get a striker good enough to see us top half, I reckon. I've no idea whether said target would be worth that or not.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1150 on: June 07, 2019, 02:24:32 PM »
We need to spend at least that to get a striker good enough to see us top half, I reckon. I've no idea whether said target would be worth that or not.

To get one who everyone knows is already good enough for the top half, not necessarily for one worth taking the risk on.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1151 on: June 07, 2019, 02:59:07 PM »
If there is someone out there that fits the new Aston Villa profile, these owners will back the Head Coach.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1152 on: June 07, 2019, 04:11:37 PM »
Gomez would cost maximum 43 million by contract and probably less. That said, I'd be very surprised if we spent 30 million on a single player this window.

Gómez won’t happen. I think we are a year or two away from that kind of signing. I agree with you that we will take a positive but responsible approach to play acquisition this summer and then once established invest appropriately to make progress in the division and hopefully into European competition. Really good players will also have choices and we need to guarantee our PL status first.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1153 on: June 07, 2019, 04:14:10 PM »
Gomez would cost maximum 43 million by contract and probably less. That said, I'd be very surprised if we spent 30 million on a single player this window.

Gómez won’t happen. I think we are a year or two away from that kind of signing. I agree with you that we will take a positive but responsible approach to play acquisition this summer and then once established invest appropriately to make progress in the division and hopefully into European competition. Really good players will also have choices and we need to guarantee our PL status first.
Surely signing a top quality player now would give us a better chance of staying up (and subsequently making progress) than not?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1154 on: June 07, 2019, 04:26:34 PM »
Best way to guarantee our Premier League status is to sign loads of brilliant players. You can't do that on the cheap.

 


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