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Offline ROBBO

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #420 on: May 29, 2019, 11:19:35 AM »
For me a class midfielder is essential to allow Grealish to play to his strength which is tucked in behind the forwards.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #421 on: May 29, 2019, 11:20:22 AM »
Whilst we're saying no to loans, let's also make sure we're never mugged off with make-weights such as Spurs tried with us last season.  James Milner for Stephen Ireland was an early indication of the respective directions of travel that saw us relegated and Man City ordering tanker-loads of silver polish.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #422 on: May 29, 2019, 11:26:08 AM »
It's a double edged sword. We've made Tuanzebe better and benefited from him, but we don't reap the benefits.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't sign Tammy permanently. If we're going to stay up, then we need a centre forward who can score 20 goals in this league and who has pace. That's going to cost £30m and that player isn't Tammy.

Sadly I agree with this...Tammy has been great for us and scored bucket-loads...but I just see him as a "one up top" player in the prem. If we played two up then maybe but not in a lone striker role..

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #423 on: May 29, 2019, 11:43:50 AM »
We've been linked very heavily with Ezri Konsa at Brentford, who is a very similar player to Tuanzebe. I'd wager that Smith has already been told that Utd won't sell at this stage, so is planning elsewhere.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #424 on: May 29, 2019, 11:45:58 AM »
It's a double edged sword. We've made Tuanzebe better and benefited from him, but we don't reap the benefits.

Yes we have. He was an important part of Villa getting promoted. If Jedi/Mad Tom had been playing instead, it might not have happened

I don't see any reason why one or two loan players can't come in again next season

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #425 on: May 29, 2019, 11:48:04 AM »
And next season? The season after? It's a short term benefit, I acknowledge that.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #426 on: May 29, 2019, 11:51:27 AM »
Lolley at 26 - maybe a couple of years too old for us? Given if we see him as a player for the next 2 years or so will his resale value be beneficial when 28/29?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #427 on: May 29, 2019, 11:57:57 AM »
Lolley at 26 - maybe a couple of years too old for us? Given if we see him as a player for the next 2 years or so will his resale value be beneficial when 28/29?

26, too old? Lord.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #428 on: May 29, 2019, 12:00:31 PM »
Lolley at 26 - maybe a couple of years too old for us? Given if we see him as a player for the next 2 years or so will his resale value be beneficial when 28/29?

26, too old? Lord.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #429 on: May 29, 2019, 12:12:33 PM »
I don't mind loans if they are done sensibly. The club have already stated that loans will be set up with options to buy rather than just random short-term thinking. In that case, it gives us a try before we buy, which is no bad thing.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #430 on: May 29, 2019, 12:14:40 PM »
We've been linked very heavily with Ezri Konsa at Brentford, who is a very similar player to Tuanzebe. I'd wager that Smith has already been told that Utd won't sell at this stage, so is planning elsewhere.

They might rethink if he's seen walking around Deansgate and Oxford Street dressed like Mings.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #431 on: May 29, 2019, 12:17:56 PM »
Loans for me are a championship necessity. Lets look at permanents now we're in the top flight. If we're short by late August and need to bolster in 1-2 positions (or cover injury) then that's when we could possibly look at loans. I'd be loathe to develop another Tuanzebe/Abraham as a Premiership side.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #432 on: May 29, 2019, 01:05:21 PM »
It doesn't work like that in the premier league, the loans transfer window is the same as the full one.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #433 on: May 29, 2019, 01:44:43 PM »
It's a double edged sword. We've made Tuanzebe better and benefited from him, but we don't reap the benefits.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't sign Tammy permanently. If we're going to stay up, then we need a centre forward who can score 20 goals in this league and who has pace. That's going to cost £30m and that player isn't Tammy.

Not to single you out Ads, a lot of people seem to say the same. But I don't think we 'need' a striker to score 20.

Only Vardy from outside the top 6 got more than 14 this season. Wilson got 14. I think next is Jimenez, Murray on 13, then King, Barnes and Perez on 12.

Also, Vardy, Wilson, Murray, King, Barnes and Perez are all strikers who came from the Championship and made the step up comfortably. I think Tammy would be fine for us, and has the potential to be great - I think he's capable of scoring 15 next year and that'd be a fantastic return.

I know the argument is he only got 5 for Swansea, but he started well for them, they were shite and the manager changed after a couple of months. Also, Swansea only 28 goals all season, so Tammy's 5 as a percentage of overall team goes was actually relatively high.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #434 on: May 29, 2019, 01:50:20 PM »
And next season? The season after? It's a short term benefit, I acknowledge that.

That's what loans are for.

 


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