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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 08:13:59 PM »
I'd definitely sign Hause, Mings and El Ghazi, probably £10-12m for the lot is a bargain. Tammy would probably be a bit expensive (and may well not be available anyway given the transfer embargo at Chelsea) and whilst I like Tuanzebe I'm not convinced he's fit enough to play regularly at that level.

Other than that I trust Smith to sign the sort of players I'd want (Guilbert looks the part from what I've seen) and I'd hope he doesn't go mental, 3-4 first team players and 2-3 to develop for a few months is about the most we should be going for this summer because signing 10-12 players and trying to almost create a new team just doesn't work.
£10 - £12 miliion for the lot?

I'm pretty sure that alone wouldn't even get Mings.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2019, 08:16:17 PM »
El Ghazi is available on a free apparently.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2019, 08:19:48 PM »
El Ghazi is available on a free apparently.
Not sure about that, Lille bought him Jan 2017 ( wouldn't of signed a 1.5 year contract ) and there's a clause in his contract to buy.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2019, 08:23:11 PM »
I'd definitely sign Hause, Mings and El Ghazi, probably £10-12m for the lot is a bargain. Tammy would probably be a bit expensive (and may well not be available anyway given the transfer embargo at Chelsea) and whilst I like Tuanzebe I'm not convinced he's fit enough to play regularly at that level.

Other than that I trust Smith to sign the sort of players I'd want (Guilbert looks the part from what I've seen) and I'd hope he doesn't go mental, 3-4 first team players and 2-3 to develop for a few months is about the most we should be going for this summer because signing 10-12 players and trying to almost create a new team just doesn't work.
£10 - £12 miliion for the lot?

I'm pretty sure that alone wouldn't even get Mings.

Indeed. For comparison, some folk reckoned we'd get £15m for Chester last summer.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2019, 08:29:21 PM »
I think Hause is a £4m buy out, El Ghazi is £5m?  If we have it to spend and we are still in this division, I'd do it.  Like others, hoping for Joe Lolley, Fer or Carroll as I think Smith will do well with them, Rico Henry if he can stay fit.  If we go up, Lolley.  The rest are Championship players.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2019, 08:29:26 PM »
El Ghazi is available on a free apparently.
Not sure about that, Lille bought him Jan 2017 ( wouldn't of signed a 1.5 year contract ) and there's a clause in his contract to buy.

Paper reports are they want to get rid

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2019, 08:31:03 PM »
El Ghazi is available on a free apparently.
Not sure about that, Lille bought him Jan 2017 ( wouldn't of signed a 1.5 year contract ) and there's a clause in his contract to buy.

Paper reports are they want to get rid
They might want to but I'm sure they'll want to recoup some of the 8 million euros they paid, be it from Villa or another club.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2019, 08:32:03 PM »
El Ghazi is available on a free apparently.
Not sure about that, Lille bought him Jan 2017 ( wouldn't of signed a 1.5 year contract ) and there's a clause in his contract to buy.

Paper reports are they want to get rid
They might want to but I'm sure they'll want to recoup some of the 8 million euros they paid, be it from Villa or another club.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2019, 08:38:52 PM »
I'd definitely sign Hause, Mings and El Ghazi, probably £10-12m for the lot is a bargain. Tammy would probably be a bit expensive (and may well not be available anyway given the transfer embargo at Chelsea) and whilst I like Tuanzebe I'm not convinced he's fit enough to play regularly at that level.

Other than that I trust Smith to sign the sort of players I'd want (Guilbert looks the part from what I've seen) and I'd hope he doesn't go mental, 3-4 first team players and 2-3 to develop for a few months is about the most we should be going for this summer because signing 10-12 players and trying to almost create a new team just doesn't work.
£10 - £12 miliion for the lot?

I'm pretty sure that alone wouldn't even get Mings.

Hause has an agreed fee and it was reported in January as somewhere around £2-3m.

Then there's talk of El Ghazi being allowed to leave for free - This all comes from a story in l'equipe over in France - if not any agreed fee will be reasonable anyway, £3-4m at a guess.

Mings is more difficult, I suspect the fee we wanted to set in January was around the £3-4m mark but they wanted to keep options open if he did well. He did but his injury record will still be a concern so they'll be lucky to get the £8m they paid back.

So £10-12m if AEG is free going up to £15-16m if not.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2019, 08:48:41 PM »
I read at the time that El Ghazi was a loan with an option to buy at around £4 million.  If true then his club are hardly likely to come out mid season and claim that he's available on a free, especially as he's a regular in a top Championship side.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2019, 08:58:51 PM »
I'd definitely sign Hause, Mings and El Ghazi, probably £10-12m for the lot is a bargain. Tammy would probably be a bit expensive (and may well not be available anyway given the transfer embargo at Chelsea) and whilst I like Tuanzebe I'm not convinced he's fit enough to play regularly at that level.

Other than that I trust Smith to sign the sort of players I'd want (Guilbert looks the part from what I've seen) and I'd hope he doesn't go mental, 3-4 first team players and 2-3 to develop for a few months is about the most we should be going for this summer because signing 10-12 players and trying to almost create a new team just doesn't work.
£10 - £12 miliion for the lot?

I'm pretty sure that alone wouldn't even get Mings.

Hause has an agreed fee and it was reported in January as somewhere around £2-3m.

Then there's talk of El Ghazi being allowed to leave for free - This all comes from a story in l'equipe over in France - if not any agreed fee will be reasonable anyway, £3-4m at a guess.

Mings is more difficult, I suspect the fee we wanted to set in January was around the £3-4m mark but they wanted to keep options open if he did well. He did but his injury record will still be a concern so they'll be lucky to get the £8m they paid back.

So £10-12m if AEG is free going up to £15-16m if not.
The El Gahzi on a free thing I don't get, surely he would of been on say a 3 year deal at Lille which started Jan 17. I think Mings will go back to Bournemouth ( maybe not if we do win the play offs ) but I can't see him going anywhere for less than £12 plus. Ben Gibson went to Burnley for £15, Mepham to Bournemouth for £12...Mings is better than both for me and you're going back to something like 2015 when he had a bad injury. Looks pretty much over any of that playing 2 matches a week for the last 5 months.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2019, 09:22:49 PM »
The rumour in January was that we wanted to set a fee of around £4m and they were holding out for more. We then have no real idea what the clause is because it's just termed as a matching option but there's a few things I'd suggest it isn't.

I doubt we'd have added a clause which gives us an option to match whatever anyone else offers, simply because it's pointless, the only way that one becomes of any value is if they have an obligation to inform us of the offers they get but even then given we have an existing relationship with him and his agent we'd get that anyway (assuming he wants to stay).

I therefore suspect that the agreement is that we can have him for a minimum of £xm but if anyone offers more we have to match that value. If that's right I suspect the minimum would be based on where he was in January, that's why I think £6-8m is realistic.

I guess we'll see in a few weeks.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2019, 11:24:40 AM »
Given that clubs are looking at Ake for big money, I'd be really surprised if Bournemouth don't decide to keep Mings.

But if we do go up and can sign him for anything like that, it would be incredible business.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2019, 11:32:53 AM »
i think Barbet from Brentford is Plan B, if we don't bag the Emperor

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2019, 04:29:55 PM »
Does seem strange that we have let Green's contract run down. Steer and Elphick will surely have decent offers from other Championship clubs too.

Kodjia, Chester, Hourihane, AA, BB, Davis, Elmo all with only a year left on their contracts. Chester, Hourihane, Elmo and Davis surely worth keeping around if we are in the same division next season.

 


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