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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2019, 04:22:05 PM »
It's some going to try and make out giving a 17 year old his debut is a bad thing.

Offline Villa75

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2019, 04:27:18 PM »
Good luck to the young lad!

As we're neither going up or going down, I say, let's have more of our younger players given the chance to prove themselves and gain experience.

Offline stuart445

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2019, 04:30:36 PM »
It's some going to try and make out giving a 17 year old his debut is a bad thing.

Playing a 17 year old with the atmosphere that is developing at Villa park is not going to help him thrive,  as has been said it'd be wiser to play him at away games.  But you keep believing Smith is perfect in every way.  All Hail King Smith,  Woe Betide Anyone Who Questions Our Great Leader

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2019, 04:33:31 PM »
Woe betide anyone who questions our great leader, apart from the hundreds of pages in a thread we have about him on here where a good portion are doing exactly.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2019, 04:33:36 PM »
It's some going to try and make out giving a 17 year old his debut is a bad thing.

Playing a 17 year old with the atmosphere that is developing at Villa park is not going to help him thrive,  as has been said it'd be wiser to play him at away games.  But you keep believing Smith is perfect in every way.  All Hail King Smith,  Woe Betide Anyone Who Questions Our Great Leader

I've never once said that about Smith. In fact no one on this board has. Says a lot about you that you keep trotting out such utter nonsense.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2019, 04:36:46 PM »
And after a quick sending-off wasnt seen again for...(a year or two after?).
Yeah remember it well, it was at QPR, I would say it's a safe bet to say he's the only Villa player to be sent off on his debut.

I think I was there, if it's the game where we won 1-0 with Yorke scoring. I was sitting in their family stand. Might have been a different game though.

No we lost 1-0

The sending off was undeserved, I remember the QPR manager saying so (Wilkins?) after the match. Spinksy came on and played outfield for the last ten mins as I remember.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2019, 04:42:59 PM »
A lot of good youth players started in bad sides by necessity. The clubs didn't have the option to buy decent alternatives. Only those at the top of the food chain can afford to gently ease-in youth players over 3 or 4 seasons even if they want to go that route and most of them don't.. We need to try them out as early as possible, give them a chance, and also be more ruthless. The days of having youth players getting to 21/22 with no first team games under their belts needs to be banished asap.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2019, 05:08:31 PM »
I thought the 2nd time he gave the ball away was out of muscle memory. He played it blind, probably out of habit as that's where a Villa player in the u23s would have been.

Found space, was quite bright with his energy and was the only player to break the lines, albeit in the 91st minute.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2019, 06:09:49 PM »
His debut was 23rd Dec 1995, his next game was a start in the borefest home game against Boro 19th March 1996.

Can see what Eamonn is saying, don't remember Hendrie featuring at all in 96/97 or first part of 97/98. Scored v Coventry but even then wasn't really used until Gregory was appointed and then he was trusted like Jack was under Sherwood with regular starts.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2019, 06:11:11 PM »
We lost 1-0. It was the game we had to bring Spink on to play outfield.

Really, were those the days of 3 subs? Spinky must've been close to 40 by then!

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2019, 06:46:49 PM »
It was great to see him make his debut in a derby game I hope he's another star in the making from the academy.

Offline West Derby Villan

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2019, 06:56:42 PM »
I thought he did ok, at least he didn't hide like the bloke he replaced. He didn't seem overawed by the opposition or the occasion in my opinion. Fair play to DS for having faith and giving him the opportunity.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2019, 07:43:02 PM »
it'd be wiser to play him at away games...

Have you experienced the febrile atmosphere at our recent away games?! - the boy will get far more out of playing on his home ground!

My view is that since we are not going to make the play-offs on current trends, give as much experience to as many of the future lads as we can, judiciously.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2019, 08:43:50 PM »
Home or away, a 17 year old will be backed to the hilt.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2019, 11:38:50 PM »
It's some going to try and make out giving a 17 year old his debut is a bad thing.

Not half as stupid as claiming that a player who can score a goal every other game over a three season period for a team at the bottom of the league isn't any good.

 


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