Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread

[brian green]

Ask anybody who has ever acted in any scouting capacity and the club they most admire and respect for finding talent is Leicester City.

[dave.woodhall]

Wolves going up had as much to do with a Champions League player in their central midfield.

Lots of ways to skin rabbits. But the Dingles, Leicester, Norwich, Huddersfield...all seemed a lot more mobile than us.

All of those clubs, plus a few others who are now regulars in the Premier League all had the luxury of having supporters who would give them time because they were used to little better. Tell a Huddersfield supporter in 2014 that no matter how unlikely it'd seem for the next two years, they'd get promoted in the third and they'd have bitten your hand off. Give us the same deal in 2016 and we'd have told you to go and bollocks - because we're used to the Premier League whereas it's a magical place if you're Huddersfield.

[Ads]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

If he'd been there last season instead of a bloke who finds a team mate 6 times out of 10, we'd be in the Premier League right now.

[XXVilla]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

If he'd been there last season instead of a bloke who finds a team mate 6 times out of 10, we'd be in the Premier League right now.

Well he wasn’t and we aren’t. My point is that Wolves did more than sign one champions league midfielder. They changed a manager, a philosophy and three quarters of a team in one off season. And they used money and know how to do it. I would kill someone’s first born to be the in their position now. The irony is I think we would have the money but I’m not sure about the know how. I mean, how the hell did wolves become attractive to Nuno? It’s a rhetorical question by the way, so I don’t really need an explaination.

[PeterWithesShin]

Surely everyone knows by now why Nuno went there?

[dave.woodhall]

Wolves - and Leeds for that matter - had to kiss a lot of frogs before they found their handsome prince. Why are they doing so well now? It's probably connected to the reason why the longest-running joke in English football is now the most successful.

[The Edge]

Surely everyone knows by now why Nuno went there?

Apparently he had a dream

[Risso]

Ask anybody who has ever acted in any scouting capacity and the club they most admire and respect for finding talent is Leicester City.

Southampton have to be the best in recent years, surely?

[Ads]

Ask anybody who has ever acted in any scouting capacity and the club they most admire and respect for finding talent is Leicester City.

Southampton have to be the best in recent years, surely?

Liverpool seem to think so.

[LukeJames]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

If he'd been there last season instead of a bloke who finds a team mate 6 times out of 10, we'd be in the Premier League right now.

Well he wasn’t and we aren’t. My point is that Wolves did more than sign one champions league midfielder. They changed a manager, a philosophy and three quarters of a team in one off season.

Aswell as a Champions League midfielder, they also got a Champions League manager, defender and winger. They also did this during the summer.
If Nuno had come in half way through the previous season (as Smith has at Villa) he would of been coaching Jack Price, Dave Edwards, Dominic Iorfa, Noaha Dicko, Danny Batth, Kourtney Hause, Joe Mason instead. Would they have been patient with him trying to get his style across with players nowhere near the level he coached at Porto or now?
Thankfully for them he came in the Summer and we all know what followed. Frustratingly for us we were unable to make a change in the summer and had to do it mid season (again)

[thick_mike]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

If he'd been there last season instead of a bloke who finds a team mate 6 times out of 10, we'd be in the Premier League right now.

Well he wasn’t and we aren’t. My point is that Wolves did more than sign one champions league midfielder. They changed a manager, a philosophy and three quarters of a team in one off season.

Aswell as a Champions League midfielder, they also got a Champions League manager, defender and winger. They also did this during the summer.
If Nuno had come in half way through the previous season (as Smith has at Villa) he would of been coaching Jack Price, Dave Edwards, Dominic Iorfa, Noaha Dicko, Danny Batth, Kourtney Hause, Joe Mason instead. Would they have been patient with him trying to get his style across with players nowhere near the level he coached at Porto or now?
Thankfully for them he came in the Summer and we all know what followed. Frustratingly for us we were unable to make a change in the summer and had to do it mid season (again)

And we still gave them a spanking at Villa Park. Too bad  we couldn’t follow it up.

[SoccerHQ]

We had Jedinak at the bottom of our midfield. They had a 22 year old Champions League player.

Great. That’s all we need to do then. Put a Champions League player in our midfield and sorted.

If he'd been there last season instead of a bloke who finds a team mate 6 times out of 10, we'd be in the Premier League right now.

Well he wasn’t and we aren’t. My point is that Wolves did more than sign one champions league midfielder. They changed a manager, a philosophy and three quarters of a team in one off season.

Aswell as a Champions League midfielder, they also got a Champions League manager, defender and winger. They also did this during the summer.
If Nuno had come in half way through the previous season (as Smith has at Villa) he would of been coaching Jack Price, Dave Edwards, Dominic Iorfa, Noaha Dicko, Danny Batth, Kourtney Hause, Joe Mason instead. Would they have been patient with him trying to get his style across with players nowhere near the level he coached at Porto or now?
Thankfully for them he came in the Summer and we all know what followed. Frustratingly for us we were unable to make a change in the summer and had to do it mid season (again)

He also inherited likes of Conor Coady and Matt Doherty. Coady was just another average defensively midfielder, Nuno moved him into a back 3 as the ball playing defender and he's been a revelation. Doherty was nothing special but is also crucial to Wolves system and been one of best wide players in premier league this season.

Helder Costa and Ivan Cavaliero were actually at Wolves in 16/17. Have a guess which Scottish manager had Wolves losing six in a row even with those players in the ranks...

[brontebilly]

Our keeper looked crap for the first goal. He really doesn't seem the most agile.

[Legion]

Our keeper looked crap for the first goal. He really doesn't seem the most agile.

I thought it looped well over him and he stood no chance.

[Sexual Ealing]

Our keeper looked crap for the first goal. He really doesn't seem the most agile.

I thought it looped well over him and he stood no chance.

I haven't seen any footage of yesterday (I don't want to), but the times I've seen Kalinic so far I've thought that it's a good job he's tall because he doesn't seem able to jump.