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Author Topic: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread  (Read 55123 times)

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2019, 05:53:41 PM »
Well the manager has got to be brave and do something different then. Simply putting by and large the same 11 out each week in the same manner won't see anything different happen. He needs to get a grip, get a fucking plan and start making something happen. Same players same formation week in week out wont wash. I know it's not his squad, but it's his team and he's got to make do with them at the moment, it's his job to make the best out of this bunch, that's what he's fucking paid for, not passing off responsibility for everything on to a previous manager which some do as an excuse.

He's been abysmal 90% of the time for 2 months now. GET A FUCKING GRIP SMITH.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2019, 05:57:00 PM »
Good post Ads.  Adversity brings the best out of your observations. 

I personally have the problem now that I shall never see us back in the top flight.  If Dean Smith started to get his mojo back tomorrow it will take him at least two seasons to make us look as good as Brentford.  The reality is that he will stagger and stumble TSM1, TSM2, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Black, RDM and Bruce like until he gets the sack in the middle of next season and is replaced by Wagner. 

The big difference between us being utter shit now and utter shit when we went down to Division 3 is that back then we KNEW we would return back to the very top.  I suspect that self belief has gone.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2019, 06:01:07 PM »
That was a bit shite really. No passion or desire and I think we may need to do yet another rebuild as if we did go up with our current lot (not very likely this year) I can't see us tearing up the prem. It doesn't feel like a positive but if we get a decent pre season and get rid of the dead wood, I do think we would be better off than we are now with loans and players who are just a collection of individuals and not a team. We can then start to actually find a system and stick to it rather than playing not to lose because at the moment, whatever smith is coaching the players seems to be beyond either their capabilities or fitness or intelligence but the basic skills seem to have vanished. It can't all be down to smith can it?

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #78 on: February 16, 2019, 06:03:22 PM »
It can't all be down to smith can it?
No-one at the club has a greater influence on how we play and how the players perform.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #79 on: February 16, 2019, 06:04:36 PM »
It can't all be down to smith can it?
No-one at the club has a greater influence on how we play and how the players perform.
Than Steve Bruce.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2019, 06:05:41 PM »
Fairly even through the first twenty then I noticed a drop off in effort it was as if they all said can we have a bit of a rest, not long after Albion scored and the game was over. I don't care who he plays in midfield as long as it isn't the two who have failed all season.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #81 on: February 16, 2019, 06:07:38 PM »
It can't all be down to smith can it?
No-one at the club has a greater influence on how we play and how the players perform.
Than Steve Bruce.
Nope.  Too easy.  Smith is in charge, it's his responsibility now.  You can't tell me that Smith absolutely could do no better than how we're performing and the results we're getting now.  His points per game is almost identical to Bruce's.  He's made no improvement at all.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2019, 06:08:18 PM »
Eventually the mistakes started to totting up in the first half, Goalkeeper booting it into touch, a few stray passes and we go from looking the most likely to momentum changing towards them and then they score.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2019, 06:09:40 PM »
Reme Garde got the sack for a run not dissimilar to the current one.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #84 on: February 16, 2019, 06:10:04 PM »
As soon as Tammy missed that first chance, I could tell how the afternoon would pan out. And so did, I suspect, the team.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2019, 06:11:11 PM »
It can't all be down to smith can it?
No-one at the club has a greater influence on how we play and how the players perform.
Than Steve Bruce.
Nope.  Too easy.  Smith is in charge, it's his responsibility now.  You can't tell me that Smith absolutely could do no better than how we're performing and the results we're getting now.  His points per game is almost identical to Bruce's.  He's made no improvement at all.
The squad is shot and lost its 2 best players and the best defender played with injured , the question/criticism is should Smith have tried to play a different way based on the resources he has had?

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2019, 06:13:37 PM »
Reme Garde got the sack for a run not dissimilar to the current one.
He should have said he was a Villa fan.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2019, 06:13:56 PM »
I think it's entirely justified to criticise if the players would be more coherent playing another way and you persist with a different one. Particularly if the inference is that loads of them will be dumped in the summer anyway.

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #88 on: February 16, 2019, 06:14:37 PM »
Maybe Reme was as shit at his job as Remi was?  :P

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Re: Shambolic Aston Villa vs Smethwick Post-Match Thread
« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2019, 06:16:12 PM »
As soon as Tammy missed that first chance, I could tell how the afternoon would pan out. And so did, I suspect, the team.

Indeed. But unlike us, the players & the manager had the opportunity to do something different - and they did sweet FA. Again.

 


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