Brentford v Aston Villa post match thread.

[Chris Smith]

The team assembled by Dean Smith played the one he now manages off the park. It’s hardly stretching credulity to expect that when he has had time to implement his plans at Villa we will see similar performances.

[brontebilly]

He charmed us with all his chat about ‘high press’, ‘setting traps’ ‘overlapping fullbacks’ etc etc.

I genuinely think that is what he wants but the players at his disposal are incapable of doing it.

Managers or head coaches are judged on whether they are getting the best out of the resources at their disposal. Not, I have one plan and one plan only, and need to get players in that suit it. Competent managers adapt.

The early positive days look suspiciously down to a combination of new manager bounce and Grealish. Smith unfortunately seems miles out of his depth at the moment . If the season continues to peter out, he shouldn't be given next season.

[Lastfootstamper]

And I think I know what happened last night; on my phone's match feed, it said our manager was one K. MacDonald. Just looked, and it still says it.

[Lsvilla]

We have some really poor players. They don’t deserve the commitment of the traveling fans. Big job on for Smith the only comfort I take is that he built that Brentford side so with the right players he can get us playing with that tempo and movement - our team looks older less fit less mobile and less skilful on the ball in comparison. Think we might have to take our medicine v Albion and Blues before it gets better - and could be in this division a long time.

[DB]

Half of me looks at the recent performances and results and think he is out of his depth. The other half thinks he needs a summer to build his own team and we need to have a long term view, looking at what Norwich, Sheffield Utd have done.
All I know is last time we played the Boggies, I genuinely thought we would beat them. Now, I wonder how many goals they will beat us by at home. Since that match at the Whore Thorns, we have gone downhill pretty quick.

[Dr Butler]

He charmed us with all his chat about ‘high press’, ‘setting traps’ ‘overlapping fullbacks’ etc etc.

I genuinely think that is what he wants but the players at his disposal are incapable of doing it.

same here Legion, we have to give Smith a pre-season and a summer transfer window.

getting fed up with quick fixes down the Villa

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[kentishvillan]

For me the only highlight of the night was meeting Des Little and his pals. Great guys and plenty of good banter, bordering on gallows humour at times.

Des - Many thanks for sorting out the ticket for me.

[Nunkin1965]

He charmed us with all his chat about ‘high press’, ‘setting traps’ ‘overlapping fullbacks’ etc etc.

I genuinely think that is what he wants but the players at his disposal are incapable of doing it.

same here Legion, we have to give Smith a pre-season and a summer transfer window.

getting fed up with quick fixes down the Villa

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The Doc

We need to because we’re turning into Leeds United by changing managers every few months.
Smith needs time but he also needs results soon and he’ll know that.

[darren woolley]

It wasn't a very good performance last night I was standing in the bottom tier at Brentford we got behind the team but sadly to no avail.

[auntiesledd]

He charmed us with all his chat about ‘high press’, ‘setting traps’ ‘overlapping fullbacks’ etc etc.

I genuinely think that is what he wants but the players at his disposal are incapable of doing it.

I agree with that Legion, but would add that it seems to me that some of our shower don't want to play the way that Smith demands: so they don't feckin bother.

[mr underhill]

if the season ends with us where Brentford are now or lower  Dean won't get a pre-season here

[Marlon From Bearwood]

A thoroughly shit night, the only highlights being finding a decent pub near the ground and getting back reasonably quickly due to lack of traffic.

It often looked to me like they had an extra player - several times one of our players was surrounded by 3 or 4 Brentford players. They had so much more energy than us. We were strolling around as if a 0-0 would do us. In the end we got what we deserved.

I certainly didn’t expect a decent response at full time however the levels of abuse dished out by some of our fans to the players, in particular Hourihane, as they walked in front of the away fans was pretty shocking. Confidence must be absolutely rock bottom now. Not good going into a big derby on Saturday.

Sky showed our defenders heading towards the box for what I think was our first corner, strolling would be over-egging it. The air of indifference, the casual manner that they made their way towards the area was shocking, as I said in the match thread at the time, "no rush lads".

For that they deserve as many rounds of fucks as the fans can manage.

Absolutely. However screaming at Hourihane that he’s a “Fucking IRA ******” is going slightly over the top IMO.

[auntiesledd]

if the season ends with us where Brentford are now or lower  Dean won't get a pre-season here

You're probably right, but I've a feeling that such an outcome will result in some of our squad surviving the cull that evidently needs to happen...

[auntiesledd]

A thoroughly shit night, the only highlights being finding a decent pub near the ground and getting back reasonably quickly due to lack of traffic.

It often looked to me like they had an extra player - several times one of our players was surrounded by 3 or 4 Brentford players. They had so much more energy than us. We were strolling around as if a 0-0 would do us. In the end we got what we deserved.

I certainly didn’t expect a decent response at full time however the levels of abuse dished out by some of our fans to the players, in particular Hourihane, as they walked in front of the away fans was pretty shocking. Confidence must be absolutely rock bottom now. Not good going into a big derby on Saturday.

Sky showed our defenders heading towards the box for what I think was our first corner, strolling would be over-egging it. The air of indifference, the casual manner that they made their way towards the area was shocking, as I said in the match thread at the time, "no rush lads".

For that they deserve as many rounds of fucks as the fans can manage.

Absolutely. However screaming at Hourihane that he’s a “Fucking IRA c***” is going slightly over the top IMO.

Really? How utterly moronic.

[mr underhill]

auntie - if Steve Bruce returns maybe but if not, then I don't think they would. And just for the record i want Dean to succeed, but I have always thought the job would eat him alive. He's already morphed into Bruce/Lambert