Tyrone Mings

[Hookeysmith]

My point is that can he not be just an old arsehole rather than  a "Tory so must have a racist agenda" it seems everything has to be politicisised.

I would imagine he is more bitter about the young men playing today, especially the money they command, than actual race or anything else.

Maybe also he thinks they are all a bit too sensitive nowadays and not real men (thugs) like in his day - this is an age thing as i feel the same about music, tv etc (as i am an old git now  )

[VILLA MOLE]

My point is that can he not be just an old arsehole rather than  a "Tory so must have a racist agenda" it seems everything has to be politicisised.

I would imagine he is more bitter about the young men playing today, especially the money they command, than actual race or anything else.

Maybe also he thinks they are all a bit too sensitive nowadays and not real men (thugs) like in his day - this is an age thing as i feel the same about music, tv etc (as i am an old git now  )

It was the comment he made about not learning anything football related from him that annoys me .  Maybe he would learn

about what it is like to play in todays environment where you are constantly televised and under scrutiny from the mass of

social media.  He was so dismissive ,  but show us your trophies again Greame

[Beard82]

My point is that can he not be just an old arsehole rather than  a "Tory so must have a racist agenda" it seems everything has to be politicisised.

I would imagine he is more bitter about the young men playing today, especially the money they command, than actual race or anything else.

Maybe also he thinks they are all a bit too sensitive nowadays and not real men (thugs) like in his day - this is an age thing as i feel the same about music, tv etc (as i am an old git now  )

I get what your saying - but its the know your place sentiment that makes it so unpleasent, whatever it was motivated by it was from somewhere within him that is unsavoury. 

Tyrone has achieved more than 99.99% of people who play football, no he may not have 3 European Cups but he has plenty of achievements, but souness is pocketing money for that article, which at best was playing to the gallery

[Exeter 77]

When I originally mentioned Souness was a Tory it was more to do with a lack of empathy for the way the government of the time deliberately ran down the place he was playing and living near rather than to suggest his arguments about Tyrone had racist connotations. That only occurred to me later.

[BC Villain]

Sourness has just called Tyrone out over the radio to call up. According to Jim White "it's in Tyrones best interests to do it over the phone". Yes Jim, I'm sure he'd shit himself

Why?  Will White go round to Tyrones house and rearrange his cushions if he doesn't?

[Clampy]

Souness and Jim White on the same programme?  Sounds a right barrel of laughs.

[Jon Crofts]

Sourness has called the police after seeing a woman eat a Yorkie.

[Nelly]

My point is that can he not be just an old arsehole rather than  a "Tory so must have a racist agenda" it seems everything has to be politicisised.

I would imagine he is more bitter about the young men playing today, especially the money they command, than actual race or anything else.

Maybe also he thinks they are all a bit too sensitive nowadays and not real men (thugs) like in his day - this is an age thing as i feel the same about music, tv etc (as i am an old git now  )

Thank you for this. Plus one from me.

Anyway, Souness has long been a dry, abrasive, cantankerous type. I loved his comment about the grass being too long when we stuffed Liverpool.

[cdbearsfan]

Getting offended because a Black player has the temerity to speak out about things that affect Black people suggests at least a casual acquaintance with racism. Storing up that prejudice for two years and using it as a stick to beat someone with is very sinister.

Conclusion: Souness isn't just an arsehole, he's a racist arsehole.

[Sexual Ealing]

Getting offended because a Black player has the temerity to speak out about things that affect Black people suggests at least a casual acquaintance with racism. Storing up that prejudice for two years and using it as a stick to beat someone with is very sinister.

Conclusion: Souness isn't just an arsehole, he's a racist arsehole.

I agree with cd.

[Ads]

I dont know, seems more cynically timed for his appearance on white van radio, for some shock jocking in-between telling us where the trade go (Selco, obvs). Stunt. With a capital c.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Hated Souness ever since he got  Steve McMahon,my favourite player at the time, sent off at Anfield.

Little did I know McMahon would be playing for them so soon after. Felt betrayed, but I'll always have that tackle on Kevin Broadhurst to look back on

[astonvilla82]

Sourness is yesterday man like Niel Warnock both think themselves funny because they are old school, can't stand either of them, have no love for Albion but remember that Sheffield Utd game, which talksport never mention

[Diablo]

In further Souness "making friends and influencing people" news:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/aug/15/graeme-souness-criticised-mans-game-premier-league-chelsea-tottenham

He's had an action packed week hasn't he? Souness is now advising Man Yoo to go buy our new captain SJM. Does this mean? A) He has reconsidered his view on Tyrone and he's now actively trying to get him reinstated? B) He's a rent a gob, s**t talking, talking head https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfers-manchester-united-24763923

[brontebilly]

My point is that can he not be just an old arsehole rather than  a "Tory so must have a racist agenda" it seems everything has to be politicisised.

I would imagine he is more bitter about the young men playing today, especially the money they command, than actual race or anything else.

Maybe also he thinks they are all a bit too sensitive nowadays and not real men (thugs) like in his day - this is an age thing as i feel the same about music, tv etc (as i am an old git now  )

It was the comment he made about not learning anything football related from him that annoys me .  Maybe he would learn

about what it is like to play in todays environment where you are constantly televised and under scrutiny from the mass of

social media.  He was so dismissive ,  but show us your trophies again Greame

If Souness was made of chocolate he would eat himself...not sure how he survived the cull along with Matt Le Tissier, Nicholas and those. Roy Keane and himself seem to be a bit like our Ings/Watkins predicament. Keane is basically a younger version of Souness with maybe more humour, throwing out the same cliches as "character, show us your medals, senior pros in the changing room".

Players like Mings deserve respect. He isn't anywhere near the same level as Souness was but entitled to his opinion as much as that crank.