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Offline john e

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3045 on: November 21, 2020, 08:00:56 PM »
i donít mind either of our central defenders although Iíve always thought Engels is the better footballer
But heís injured so itís a mute point

but hereís the problem as I see it concerning centre halfís

the world has changed thereís no longer a list of top class centre halfís around the league or even in Europe
Adams, Terry, McGrath, Laursen, Ferdinand, Bruce Pallister,  Vidic, Gallas, Toure, Keown, Ledley King, Carragher, Desailly, Campbell,

I know Iím going back over the years there but Iím only scratching the surface thereís loads more but thereís nobody apart from Van Dijk thatís  anywhere near there standard nowadays

even in Europe where is the Beresiís Maldiniís and the Carvalhoís even Ramos is an old man now

to prove my point if you had 200million to spend and wages no problem what central defensive partnership would you go out and buy
if you canít have Van Dijk your struggling

so Mings and Konsa mistakes and all are as good as we can hope for in the present climate
(But I still think Engels is the best of the lot )



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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3046 on: November 21, 2020, 08:06:51 PM »
I rate Mings to become a VP legend one day, not quite God status, but on par with Mellberg... but since heís been picked for England, he strolls around the pitch like heís Paolo Maldini!!!
JT needs to quickly bring him down to Earth with a boot up the derriŤre sharpish, he was poor today, to casual & on to many occasions out of position...
Next game is over a week away, letís hope DS works on the mistakes from todayís game & puts them right against WHU.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3047 on: November 21, 2020, 08:08:54 PM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3048 on: November 21, 2020, 08:17:55 PM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3049 on: November 21, 2020, 08:26:13 PM »
Could it be with Mings that he has cemented a squad place with England and at the Villa no one is pushing for his place so maybe subconsciously he has become a little cock sure of himself? If he plays poorly then heís unlikely to get dropped because weíve no one else?
Konsa, has no one pushing for his place either but heís still young and will want to get international caps so has that drive. Just a thought.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3050 on: November 21, 2020, 08:38:05 PM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings

The other three weren't marking the guy who scored.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3051 on: November 21, 2020, 08:39:44 PM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings
He follows Wellbeck to the touch line for a throw in in their half, ball thrown over Wellbecks head and As play develops Wellbeck runs forward and Mings stays where he is taking himself completely out of the game, Brighton did not need to do anything clever to set up the chance. Our centre half went walk about, forgot about his man and they scored. Itís not the first time either.
Pathetic from a professional footballer, Sunday league stuff.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3052 on: November 22, 2020, 12:26:38 AM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings
He follows Wellbeck to the touch line for a throw in in their half, ball thrown over Wellbecks head and As play develops Wellbeck runs forward and Mings stays where he is taking himself completely out of the game, Brighton did not need to do anything clever to set up the chance. Our centre half went walk about, forgot about his man and they scored. Itís not the first time either.
Pathetic from a professional footballer, Sunday league stuff.

Totally agree, shoddy, lack of concentration and awareness

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3053 on: November 22, 2020, 09:04:03 AM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings
He follows Wellbeck to the touch line for a throw in in their half, ball thrown over Wellbecks head and As play develops Wellbeck runs forward and Mings stays where he is taking himself completely out of the game, Brighton did not need to do anything clever to set up the chance. Our centre half went walk about, forgot about his man and they scored. Itís not the first time either.
Pathetic from a professional footballer, Sunday league stuff.

Agreed on Mings but also thought Konsa should have dropped off. Our defensive line was five yards inside their half for defending their goal. Luiz was dreadful too for both goals. 

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3054 on: November 22, 2020, 09:18:27 AM »
The first goal was awful. Reminded me of that Djemba Ba goal against Manchester United that everyone took the piss out of. Donít think it can be pinned on just Mings though. He was poor, but I think you would expect three of four others to do better as well.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3055 on: November 22, 2020, 09:31:27 AM »
I just want to see him defend. Not steaming forward, not thinking heís Maldini with all the time in the world to stroke it round and then to get dispossessed. Just be a solid centre back. Concentrate, cut out the mistakes.
Heís a liability.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3056 on: November 22, 2020, 10:23:12 AM »
Cash should have been much deeper than he was; he would then have been able to get round to deal with Welbeck. Also, Luiz was guilty of ball-watching, and Mings got sucked in too far.

Pretty much the same for the second BHA goal: Cash and Luiz both switched off.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3057 on: November 22, 2020, 10:26:50 AM »
 It was not just Mings, the whole back line was so far forward, it was ridiculous.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3058 on: November 22, 2020, 10:32:26 AM »
It was not just Mings, the whole back line was so far forward, it was ridiculous.
There is allways a player that calls the line ( usually centre half),  this is Mings.
You can argue other players should cover but the first mistake is Mings wandering over there.

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Re: Tyrone Mings - signed permanently and confirmed as even more awesome
« Reply #3059 on: November 22, 2020, 11:26:04 AM »
His positional awareness for their first goal was embarrassing. Proper schoolboy stuff.

Thereís a back 4 though they were all in front of him not just Mings

The other three weren't marking the guy who scored.

your spot on there, thatís why he waltzed through unhindered


 


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