Wigan v Villa post-match thread

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Gob-smackingly, jaw-droppingly, worryingly awful. New levels of shitness reached, all capped by possibly the worst debut I've ever seen. Dreadful all round, on the pitch and in the dugout. How is it possible that we're getting worse?

[SheffieldVillain]

Still too many players who simply aren't up to it. Taylor, Hourihane, Whelan to name but three. Left back and holding midfielder badly needed.

Not overly concerned by Hause's dodgy debut, see where he is after a couple of weeks.

Kalinic made a couple of cracking saves.

[CJ]

I said after the last game I never wanted to see Whelan or Taylor in a Villa shirt again, and I stand by that, but they weren't the only culprits today. Again McGinn is the only one who comes out with any credit, the rest of the team were sloppy and simply lacked any conviction. And Deano can't escape criticism either - fuck knows why he brought Hause on for Elphick when he could have made a more positive change, and naming Whelan in the squad at all was just wrong.

What happened to the cavalier, fast tempo, high chance creating, goal scoring team that he started with? Surely it can't all be put down to losing Grealish? The passion has simply disappeared

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

 

Not good but did anybody really think it was going to  be different today after the way we capitulated at home against Swansea  last week?

I dread to think how we'll capitulate against Hull next week! 

[ChicagoLion]

The problem is the midfield.
If the manager can’t see that then we are in trouble.

[Villafirst]

Keep McGinn and Grealish - ship the rest out!

[curiousorange]

Zero shots on target, was it? At fucking Wigan Athletic. One day, on my deathbed, I'm going to look back at this season and laugh.

[Jon Crofts]

What the fuck is wrong with some of these ****** who call themselves professional footballers? Fucking useless

[Risso]

Do tell us about setting traps, the second phase and overloading Dean.

[auntiesledd]

Not good but did anybody really think it was going to  be different today after the way we capitulated at home against Swansea  last week?

I'm sure we all hoped it would be, but our useless mob clearly had other ideas. Worrying times.

[Matt C]

So bad.

[mr underhill]

the problem isn't the midfield, it's all 11

[LukeJames]

Wigan pressed our backline relentlessly and we made error after error, I thought thats what we were supposed to be fucking doing? defence, midfield and forwards playing as seperate sections instead as of a unit.

Other than McGinn everybody was monumentally shite, to many shit houses in that squad, no football intelligence at all.

[CT]

I'd ship Bolasie back from his loan now. Woeful, spineless Bacuna like effort from him.

...and he wasn't alone.

Wigan were better than us when we beat them at VP. It happens, win some, lose some.

What I will never accept is players trotting around like they're Billy big time, thinking all they have do to is show up.

Play offs are a pipe dream after that.

[TonyD]

A good team wins with a spine starting in defence and through into midfield. 

We have neither. 

We are indeed spineless.   Like a jelly.