The International Cricket Thread

[Risso]

It's just disgraceful cheating, end of story. Win or lose now I'd refuse to shake all their hands at the end of the game and tell the cheating no marks to fuck off in language that would make Ollie Robinson blush.

[taylorsworkrate]

That is the worst bit of sportsmanship I've seen in a while. Why not just roll the ball on the ground?

Don’t think there is an issue with it to be honest.  The ball was still live and Bairstow wandered out of his ground. 

There is. It's stealth and surreptitious and that's not how cricket or any sport should be played.

He left his crease barely after the ball got to the wicket keeper. They've clearly got a read on Bairstow doing that at the end of an over and they've taken advantage. Absolutely no issue with them on this one. It's 100% on Bairstow being a fucking moron.

No. There was no advantage batsman was trying to gain by doing what he did. It's considered normal play in between balls. It's totally different from backing up where a batsman is trying to score a run by foul means. What Carey did was sneaky and unfair.

You wait for the umpire to call "over" before wandering down the pitch. The ball had barely gotten to Carey before Bairstow went off on his venture. Its something that's clearly been noticed by Australia and talked about, so why haven't Bairstow and England noticed it and rectified it?

I don't think Australia have done anything wrong in this instance, both by the laws and spirit of the game. Bairstow is the only person deserving of criticism

[AlexAlexCropley]

That is the worst bit of sportsmanship I've seen in a while. Why not just roll the ball on the ground?

Don’t think there is an issue with it to be honest.  The ball was still live and Bairstow wandered out of his ground. 

There is. It's stealth and surreptitious and that's not how cricket or any sport should be played.

He left his crease barely after the ball got to the wicket keeper. They've clearly got a read on Bairstow doing that at the end of an over and they've taken advantage. Absolutely no issue with them on this one. It's 100% on Bairstow being a fucking moron.

No. There was no advantage batsman was trying to gain by doing what he did. It's considered normal play in between balls. It's totally different from backing up where a batsman is trying to score a run by foul means. What Carey did was sneaky and unfair.

You wait for the umpire to call "over" before wandering down the pitch. The ball had barely gotten to Carey before Bairstow went off on his venture. Its something that's clearly been noticed by Australia and talked about, so why haven't Bairstow and England noticed it and rectified it?

I don't think Australia have done anything wrong in this instance, both by the laws and spirit of the game. Bairstow is the only person deserving of criticism

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[German James]

It’s against the spirit of the game and they had the time to think about it. They’ll be using sandpaper on the ball next.

Absolute hysterical nonsense! If Carey randomly chucked the stumps down throughout the game in the hope a batsman might be out of his ground you might have a point, but even I've notice that Bairstow leaves his crease very quickly to stride up the wicket and give it a prod after every ball. Not gamesmanship, not against the "Spirit of the Game ^(TM)" just taking advantage of sloppy/ naive behaviour, which I'm afraid will be the cause of England losing.

Yes but like I said if that happens at the non strikers end, the bowler would flick the bails off as a warning and not appeal. Like I also said if he did it, retracted the appeal and then I’d have no issues with it if he did it again. What he did was within the laws but not within the spirit of the game. It’s all about opinions and that’s my’n but it doesn’t make it nonsense or hysterical.

Yes, sorry! I take that bit back (I was typing in anger!). I get the bit about backing up, but I don't think it's quite the same. A bowler stumping a batsman who's backing up isn't difficult - hence the warning. This was watching a player and taking advantage of his weakness, which I think is perfectly acceptable.

[LeeB]

Well I and everyone bar a group of twats decked out in coordinated coloured shirts at Lords disagree

[German James]

Well I and everyone bar a group of twats decked out in coordinated coloured shirts at Lords disagree

Oh no! I'll have to change my mind now! 

[LeeB]

Well I and everyone bar a group of twats decked out in coordinated coloured shirts at Lords disagree

Oh no! I'll have to change my mind now! 

I was actually replying to taylorworkrate but I type slow!

[German James]

Well I and everyone bar a group of twats decked out in coordinated coloured shirts at Lords disagree

Oh no! I'll have to change my mind now! 

I was actually replying to taylorworkrate but I type slow!

Fair enough! But I agree with twr so...

[Paul.S]

It’s against the spirit of the game and they had the time to think about it. They’ll be using sandpaper on the ball next.

Absolute hysterical nonsense! If Carey randomly chucked the stumps down throughout the game in the hope a batsman might be out of his ground you might have a point, but even I've notice that Bairstow leaves his crease very quickly to stride up the wicket and give it a prod after every ball. Not gamesmanship, not against the "Spirit of the Game ^(TM)" just taking advantage of sloppy/ naive behaviour, which I'm afraid will be the cause of England losing.

Yes but like I said if that happens at the non strikers end, the bowler would flick the bails off as a warning and not appeal. Like I also said if he did it, retracted the appeal and then I’d have no issues with it if he did it again. What he did was within the laws but not within the spirit of the game. It’s all about opinions and that’s my’n but it doesn’t make it nonsense or hysterical.

Yes, sorry! I take that bit back (I was typing in anger!). I get the bit about backing up, but I don't think it's quite the same. A bowler stumping a batsman who's backing up isn't difficult - hence the warning. This was watching a player and taking advantage of his weakness, which I think is perfectly acceptable.

No problem mate. Let’s just hope we can at least have a good crack at it after lunch.

[taylorsworkrate]

If it had been Bairstow getting Carey out in the same way then I suspect the overriding opinion would be that Bairstow was clever in taking advantage of his opponents stupidity.

[olaftab]

Claim it Smithy, that was a catch in Aussie rules.

[lovejoy]

Surely he’s in because he dragged his foot after the ball was with the keeper. He wasn’t going for a run just a conflab at the end of the over. If I was England I’d be whipping the bails off every ball next test.

[LeeB]

Ha ha turtle head

[olaftab]

I would like to say to Stokesy take it easy mate but doubt if he would listen. At least one team is trying to play cricket.

[beness]

Bairstow decision certainy Wound Stokes and Broad up. Stokesy going wild ATM.