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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7560 on: October 09, 2022, 09:53:28 PM »
Yeah that was a weird comment. But no great loss; ultimately the game was one.

Stokes is the problem in that team though - tremendous player obviously, but we need him to find his role in 20/20. I was massively impressed by Curran, his death bowling was superb. He’s just always had something about him.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7561 on: October 12, 2022, 03:45:28 PM »
Another win.

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« Reply #7562 on: October 13, 2022, 12:26:34 AM »
Livingstone and Jacks called up for Pakistan as back-up spinners -looks like the cupboard is bare!

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7563 on: October 15, 2022, 12:57:19 AM »
As Friday's game was abandoned, does that mean that Chris Woakes's wickets will be expunged from the records?

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7564 on: October 15, 2022, 01:42:30 AM »
I don't think so. Only if it was abandoned for something like a dangerous pitch. Rain affected averages still count.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7565 on: October 15, 2022, 03:40:25 AM »
Either way, Woakes is the most underrated cricketer of his generation.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7566 on: October 15, 2022, 09:07:56 AM »
As Friday's game was abandoned, does that mean that Chris Woakes's wickets will be expunged from the records?
No. Play was legitimate within rules until abandoned.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7567 on: October 15, 2022, 09:10:39 AM »
Either way, Woakes is the most underrated cricketer of his generation.
Agree with you totally. He has contributed enormously to England and the Bears over the years. I love him, ok that’s a bit strong, but a totally underrated player. A James Milner of cricket IMO.

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« Reply #7568 on: October 15, 2022, 12:09:45 PM »
Now the warm-ups are done, we look in good shape going into the World Cup.  Was listening to a discussion on the radio the other day and someone made the point that the only real question about the side is the death bowling.  They were saying that it has probably cost us winning the last two T20 World Cups, but someone countered that the conditions in those two defeats probably favoured batting second. 

All in all though, it looks a strong side, with some real power hitting in the top order, quality spin options and a varied seam attack.  Think that starting team could look something like:

Buttler, Hales, Malan, Stokes, Brook, Livingstone, Ali, Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley

Suppose the one dilemma might be choosing between Brook and Livingstone, moving Ali up to six and bringing in another seam option like Sam Curran or Willey.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7569 on: October 16, 2022, 08:46:57 AM »
Now the warm-ups are done, we look in good shape going into the World Cup.  Was listening to a discussion on the radio the other day and someone made the point that the only real question about the side is the death bowling.  They were saying that it has probably cost us winning the last two T20 World Cups, but someone countered that the conditions in those two defeats probably favoured batting second. 

All in all though, it looks a strong side, with some real power hitting in the top order, quality spin options and a varied seam attack.  Think that starting team could look something like:

Buttler, Hales, Malan, Stokes, Brook, Livingstone, Ali, Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley

Suppose the one dilemma might be choosing between Brook and Livingstone, moving Ali up to six and bringing in another seam option like Sam Curran or Willey.

Curran must play, he’s easily our best death bowler.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7570 on: October 17, 2022, 09:38:41 AM »
Well done Scotland beating the West Indies by 42 runs.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7571 on: October 17, 2022, 11:12:37 AM »
Now the warm-ups are done, we look in good shape going into the World Cup.  Was listening to a discussion on the radio the other day and someone made the point that the only real question about the side is the death bowling.  They were saying that it has probably cost us winning the last two T20 World Cups, but someone countered that the conditions in those two defeats probably favoured batting second. 

All in all though, it looks a strong side, with some real power hitting in the top order, quality spin options and a varied seam attack.  Think that starting team could look something like:

Buttler, Hales, Malan, Stokes, Brook, Livingstone, Ali, Woakes, Rashid, Wood, Topley

Suppose the one dilemma might be choosing between Brook and Livingstone, moving Ali up to six and bringing in another seam option like Sam Curran or Willey.

Curran must play, he’s easily our best death bowler.

I disagree, Jordan is, at least, as good as him. I think the debate is actually Brook or Curran. Livingstone offers too much to not be included, great 'finisher' with the bat and with the ball he offers pasable leg and wrist spin. In the hundred last year he also bowled a fair bit of 65-70mph stuff which was closer to seam bowling than spin. Even if you only use him for a couplew of overs to fill in you get the benefit of him bowling whatever works best in the conditions. Alongside Stokes, Woakes and Ali we have 4 players who can genuinely win us a game with bat and ball and that's a strength we should lean into heavily. Whether you go with the extra bowling of Curran or the extra batting of Brook really depends on the match.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7572 on: October 17, 2022, 12:55:49 PM »
Curran has made a strong case with both bat and ball in the warm up game today to be in the starting 11

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7573 on: October 17, 2022, 01:05:06 PM »
Curran has made a strong case with both bat and ball in the warm up game today to be in the starting 11

Indeed he has, but Brook and Livingstone both did as well. It's a really nice problem to have but, whatever happens, 2-3 very good players are going to miss out. I strongly suspect our selection will end up with a core of 7-8 and then the other spots rotating to suit the opposition, I don't see any other solution here.

Livingstone would probably be my man of the match for today, got the key wicket of the one Pakistani batsmen that looked genuinely dangerous, kept it tight for the rest of his deliveries (1/8 from 2 is fantastic bowling in t20) and then stabilised our batting alongside Brook when it looked like we might be having a wobble, setting the stage for Brook and Curran to carry it home.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #7574 on: October 17, 2022, 09:47:01 PM »
Curran has made a strong case with both bat and ball in the warm up game today to be in the starting 11

He’s made it in the Australia series too. He’s some cricketer, he just as a remarkable ability to impact games.

 


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