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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5715 on: October 11, 2021, 05:09:31 PM »
By default I approach The Ashes in Australia with a sense of utter dread, and this one is no different. I guess I lose all credibility as a fervent cricket fan, but it helps that I wonít be watching it live and so, if we get a good shoeing as I anticipate, I can pretend that as I didnít see it, it never happened.

Iíll cheerfully watch highlights if we do well, or at least credibly.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5716 on: October 11, 2021, 05:22:49 PM »
I think we tend to focus on bowling weakness, for obvious reasons, but I think the key is getting big runs and putting them under pressure. I think dealing with the likes of Jimmy, Woakes, Broad and Anderson becomes a lot more tricky if youíre facing a big deficit.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5717 on: October 11, 2021, 05:44:08 PM »
I don't suppose any of The Ashes are going to be day nighters? It would be nice to, at least, listen to a bit of it live.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5718 on: October 11, 2021, 06:14:30 PM »
I don't suppose any of The Ashes are going to be day nighters? It would be nice to, at least, listen to a bit of it live.

The second test in Adelaide is a day/nighter, it starts at 4am our time and is on from 16th to 20th December. The fifth test isnít a day/nighter but because itís in Perth it starts at 2.30am our time so around breakfast time here we should have the final session each day to watch from 14th to 18th January. Of course it will be all over by then!

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5719 on: October 11, 2021, 06:58:11 PM »
Ta. You're probably right, I can't say I'm overly confident. One away win in the thirty odd years I've been watching, and we've been hammered more times than we have even still been in the series with a test or two to go.
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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5720 on: October 12, 2021, 12:21:53 AM »
Watching the Sunrisers in the IPL and theyíve got this 21 year old Umran Malik whoís hurtling them down at 93 mph! If he keeps fit heís going to be a menace.

I saw that and he impressed me as well. Think a couple of deliveries touched 96mph, which often seems to be that magical point at which a batsman's eyes can no longer see the ball.

Very natural and relaxed action, as well, so I think you're right. If they don't overcoach him, he could be an absolutely devastating bowler.

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« Reply #5721 on: October 12, 2021, 12:28:45 AM »
Ta. You're probably right, I can't say I'm overly confident. One away win in the thirty odd years I've been watching, and we've been hammered more times than we have even still been in the series with a test two go.

If we'd had Anderson, Broad, Stone, Woakes, Archer, Wood, Leach to choose from, I'd be relatively confident in our bowling. I cannot see any configuration of batters that would do a good enough job down there. Glad Malan was selected but we just do not have runs in us.

I know external factors have played a huge part, but this whole idea of planning ahead, rotating and building towards this series couldn't have gone much worse, in my view. Avoiding a whitewash would be an achievement for me right now.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5722 on: October 12, 2021, 12:45:22 PM »
Ta. You're probably right, I can't say I'm overly confident. One away win in the thirty odd years I've been watching, and we've been hammered more times than we have even still been in the series with a test two go.

If we'd had Anderson, Broad, Stone, Woakes, Archer, Wood, Leach to choose from, I'd be relatively confident in our bowling. I cannot see any configuration of batters that would do a good enough job down there. Glad Malan was selected but we just do not have runs in us.

I know external factors have played a huge part, but this whole idea of planning ahead, rotating and building towards this series couldn't have gone much worse, in my view. Avoiding a whitewash would be an achievement for me right now.

With our previous bowling struggles in Australia well known and with Archer and Stone already ruled out, I really thought they would have given someone like Mahmood a chance this summer with an eye on the Ashes. 

I think Anderson, Robinson and Wood looks the best bet, with Woakes possibly playing as an all-rounder.  Think our spin options will get slaughtered.

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« Reply #5723 on: October 12, 2021, 12:51:17 PM »
Ta. You're probably right, I can't say I'm overly confident. One away win in the thirty odd years I've been watching, and we've been hammered more times than we have even still been in the series with a test two go.

If we'd had Anderson, Broad, Stone, Woakes, Archer, Wood, Leach to choose from, I'd be relatively confident in our bowling. I cannot see any configuration of batters that would do a good enough job down there. Glad Malan was selected but we just do not have runs in us.

I know external factors have played a huge part, but this whole idea of planning ahead, rotating and building towards this series couldn't have gone much worse, in my view. Avoiding a whitewash would be an achievement for me right now.

With our previous bowling struggles in Australia well known and with Archer and Stone already ruled out, I really thought they would have given someone like Mahmood a chance this summer with an eye on the Ashes. 

I think Anderson, Robinson and Wood looks the best bet, with Woakes possibly playing as an all-rounder.  Think our spin options will get slaughtered.

Good point about Mahmood.

Sadly, I think you're right about spin. Who was that young spinner whose career we destroyed by taking him on one of our more recent Ashes disasters, was it Kerrigan?

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5724 on: October 12, 2021, 12:57:07 PM »
I think Kerrigan played in a home test, the last one of the series.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5725 on: October 12, 2021, 01:35:28 PM »
I think Kerrigan played in a home test, the last one of the series.

Ah okay. Who was the lad we took to Aus who got figures in one test of like 1-350?

Edit: just looked it up. Mason Crane, 1-193 at the SCG in 2018.
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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5726 on: October 12, 2021, 03:52:14 PM »
The wheels always come off at the end of the Ashes tour. I wonder how many players have been given debuts and have subsequently gone on to play less than 5 Tests (in some cases no more than 1). I can think of Crane, Borthwick, Rankin, Tom Curran (think he debuted before the last Test). It just feels like all sensible decision making goes out of the window.

Personally I think our team looks pretty ordinary for the conditions. I can almost guarantee we wonít play a spinner in the first test.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5727 on: October 12, 2021, 05:17:44 PM »
The wheels always come off at the end of the Ashes tour. I wonder how many players have been given debuts and have subsequently gone on to play less than 5 Tests (in some cases no more than 1). I can think of Crane, Borthwick, Rankin, Tom Curran (think he debuted before the last Test). It just feels like all sensible decision making goes out of the window.

Personally I think our team looks pretty ordinary for the conditions. I can almost guarantee we wonít play a spinner in the first test.

It's that they panic when the whitewash looks possible and throw random teams together in the hope of scrapping a test.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5728 on: October 12, 2021, 11:54:51 PM »
The wheels always come off at the end of the Ashes tour. I wonder how many players have been given debuts and have subsequently gone on to play less than 5 Tests (in some cases no more than 1). I can think of Crane, Borthwick, Rankin, Tom Curran (think he debuted before the last Test). It just feels like all sensible decision making goes out of the window.

Personally I think our team looks pretty ordinary for the conditions. I can almost guarantee we wonít play a spinner in the first test.

I donít see us scoring 300 in any innings that Root doesnít score a tonÖ.should he get a knock or have to quarantine itíll be a very long tour

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #5729 on: October 13, 2021, 12:35:34 AM »
Yes, I think it'll be a painful one. Made worse by the fact this is a beatable Aussie side.

 


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