The International Cricket Thread

[Gareth]

Vaughan is an utter plank - click bait pundit

[hipkiss92]

Vaughan is an utter plank - click bait pundit

Yep, and for someone who is so anti-lockdown on twitter, he seems very keen to keep all the England.players in a constant covid bubble.

[PaulWinch again]

I think if Moeen was always going home after this Test it’s a weird decision to pick him. He was always going to struggle for control, which is understandable, but if he’s not playing again then he’s not gaining anything. At the same time it disrupts Bess trying to develop control, who will probably now come in and will have been disrupted.

[PGW]

I think if Moeen was always going home after this Test it’s a weird decision to pick him. He was always going to struggle for control, which is understandable, but if he’s not playing again then he’s not gaining anything. At the same time it disrupts Bess trying to develop control, who will probably now come in and will have been disrupted.

He is not coping with being in the bubble and is struggling mentally. He has requested to be released and reluctantly they've agreed.

[olaftab]

It was a bit of a gamble to throw him in after no red ball cricket for what 18 months? If he was always going home after 2 games you would have thought he either played first two games or played neither as he was always unlikely to hit it straight away to give control.

He will no doubt have given thick as pundits like Vaughan someone to blame for the loss though.

The more Vaughan tweets about players going home and just constantly wanting England to flog the same 11 players, the more it makes you think about the physical and mental.issues suffered by the likes of Tres, Flintoff, Harrison, Jones, Hoggard etc. Under his captaincy.

Yes particularly the "mental" issue he inflicted upon Trescothick.

[PaulWinch again]

I think if Moeen was always going home after this Test it’s a weird decision to pick him. He was always going to struggle for control, which is understandable, but if he’s not playing again then he’s not gaining anything. At the same time it disrupts Bess trying to develop control, who will probably now come in and will have been disrupted.

He is not coping with being in the bubble and is struggling mentally. He has requested to be released and reluctantly they've agreed.

Yeah that’s fair enough, but you kind of think if that’s the case then let him go home before this game.

[olaftab]

Moeen has been treated in an exemplary manner by the England set up. Let's hope he recovers fully for home summer of cricket. I fear that this season will be his last chance to make it back as a Test cricketer. By the looks of it he is being given the necessary support and time.

[hipkiss92]

Moeen has been treated in an exemplary manner by the England set up. Let's hope he recovers fully for home summer of cricket. I fear that this season will be his last chance to make it back as a Test cricketer. By the looks of it he is being given the necessary support and time.

Absolutely. I think some clumsy language by Root at the end of the game has thrown Mo under a bit of a bus and made it like he's asked to go home, when in reality he's getting the same treatment as all the other white ball players.

[UK Redsox]

Apparently England said before the tour that if anyone wanted to opt out at any time, they could.

I don’t think that Mo leaving was pre-planned.

[PaulWinch again]

To be fair if the intention was always for Moeen to go back after this Test they should have been as clear as they were with Buttler, Bairstow etc.

[Gareth]

Reading the update from George Dobell it sounds as though Mo like Buttler / Bairstow / Stokes & Wood before him was scheduled to go home after the 2nd test but as they had lost confidence in Bess a late request was made to Mo to stay on....hence rather than just say it was a pre-planned break Root hung him out to dry a little by saying Mo has ‘chosen’ to go home. 

[UK Redsox]

Faf du Plessis retires from Test cricket

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/56086195

[Villan For Life]

Well they completely screwed upon Moeen’s departure didn’t they?

[taylorsworkrate]

Well they completely screwed upon Moeen’s departure didn’t they?

Yeah, its been handled really badly and created a story where there wasn't one.

[UK Redsox]

Well they completely screwed upon Moeen’s departure didn’t they?

Yeah, its been handled really badly and created a story where there wasn't one.

All the other instances of people having a break (eg Jofra, Wood, Buttler, Stokes and Curran) were announced in advance.

Since Moeen was due to go home after the first test, why hadn't that been announced earlier? ....or had it ?

Root's normally pretty good PR wise, so I was surprised that he said things that required a rapid reverse ferret