Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread

[clash city rocker]

It's always the same in the January window. Just look at the other clubs. If we don't make another signing it won't necessarily be that we didn't try it's just a case other clubs couldn't make replacement signings or that they are just trying to create an auction.

[SirSteveUK]

No. Grealish was in division 3 with Notts County, not division 4. O'Hare should have been loaned out to div 3 or 4 a couple of years ago imo, the same kind of age Jack was at Notts County.

I stand corrected, thanks for the clarification. He's finished.

Easy tiger. The Russian is in League Two too, I think it's far too early to cast the die on their Villa careers.

Both should've gone out 2-3 seasons ago. They have lots of quality but both need to learn how to handle being roughed-up, that's what the notts county loan did for Jack more than anything else. If they realise they need to look after themselves better and develop they'll be fine. Suliman is another who needed to go out and get regular games a couple of years ago as well.

Suliman did go out on loan 2016/2017 to Cheltenham

Didn't get games though, that might be because he didn't impress in training or they only had him as cover or whatever but all it really meant was that he got no benefit from it. I do worry that he's now had a couple of loans and not really stepped up. I like him in the U23s and have wanted him to do well but he may well be too soft to make it.

He actually made 12 appearances for Cheltenham - and his next loan was  Grimsby  where he made 2 appearances.

[SirSteveUK]

If your planning on blooding the youth then you start playing them at 17/18/19 either in the 1st team or no more than a division down. Our ones at 22/23? forget it. their time has passed.

just for context - we do not have any 23 yr old players who are not in the 1st team picture. We have only one 22 yr old - Lyden who is injured

[sid1964]

Knowing our luck Mings will sign and then be off injured for 2 months, before he has kicked a ball for us

[Ads]

If your planning on blooding the youth then you start playing them at 17/18/19 either in the 1st team or no more than a division down. Our ones at 22/23? forget it. their time has passed.

just for context - we do not have any 23 yr old players who are not in the 1st team picture. We have only one 22 yr old - Lyden who is injured

And we have two 20 year olds out on loan or who have been on loan  and who have played first team football.

But let's not let facts interupt the complaint.

[john e]

Argue all you like our record of bringing youth through to become first teamers is rubbish

[brian green]

Not contradicting you john but in truth what aspect of the performance of all the playing parts of the club have not been rubbish for the last 8-10 years?

[DrGonzo]

And there may well have been extenuating circumstances if we believe the word of former academy players.

[john e]

Not contradicting you john but in truth what aspect of the performance of all the playing parts of the club have not been rubbish for the last 8-10 years?

i agree Brian
we seem to do well at bringing other clubs recovering from injury, young, inexperienced, out of form players through though or at least give them chances

[john e]

And there may well have been extenuating circumstances if we believe the word of former academy players.

I’m sure there’s loads of excuses some will be fair
but for the money spent on the academy the state of the art facilities we are all told about etc it’s been a pretty poor show

[eamonn]

Can we divert the yoof talk to another thread, most people's hopes of us signing Stephen Bywater and the likes are dashed when we click back and we're still discussing those who didn't live up to the likes of agent Ridgewell's prowess.

From now on let it be Mings and such things!

[Villafirst]

This isn't going well. It's make or break to our season. Try everything to get Gary Cahill in on loan. Disappointed so far. Loaning Hogan to a play-off rival is madness. The decision making at times is stupid.

[john e]

This isn't going well. It's make or break to our season. Try everything to get Gary Cahill in on loan. Disappointed so far. Loaning Hogan to a play-off rival is madness. The decision making at times is stupid.

What you on about
Loaning Hogan to a play-off-rival is a master stroke

[ASHTONVILLA]

Loaning Hogan to a play-off rival is madness. The decision making at times is stupid.

Darn right, Sheff Utd must be insane to take the useless lump.

[LukeJames]

If we don't make the play offs, it won't be because we've loaned Scott Hogan to Sheffield United.