Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Footy-Vill]

I'm with Smith as he said it wasn't a 4-1 game and agreeing wasn't a 4-1 game
We and he had a lot of bad luck in that game and he made good changes to the team but it didn't totally work out
But of Watkins header had gone in at 2-2 would have been a different story
Similarly if there was no red card
Dean also said team showed character as well as that we scored a good goal so there are positives in a somewhat strange match
I be interested to see how we perform and the team we put out Friday before people get carried away as that result to me was unlucky

Bad luck is what happens when the wheels are coming off, games like today almost always happen to managers just before they get the boot.

To be fair that's often seems the way. And if such rotten luck continues and sliding into relegation zone then it's really tough
Though I don't see our owners as knee jerk and would look to keep Dean over the long term as long as we show signs and given time to get things together
 

[Stu]

I don't see how we can sack him when didn't invest and others around us did. You have to spend to stay still, we made a healthy profit. Says everything

How does profit = 0 net spend, as you were saying earlier?

[paul_e]

I'm with Smith as he said it wasn't a 4-1 game and agreeing wasn't a 4-1 game
We and he had a lot of bad luck in that game and he made good changes to the team but it didn't totally work out
But of Watkins header had gone in at 2-2 would have been a different story
Similarly if there was no red card
Dean also said team showed character as well as that we scored a good goal so there are positives in a somewhat strange match
I be interested to see how we perform and the team we put out Friday before people get carried away as that result to me was unlucky

Bad luck is what happens when the wheels are coming off, games like today almost always happen to managers just before they get the boot.

To be fair that's often seems the way. And if such rotten luck continues and sliding into relegation zone then it's really tough
Though I don't see our owners as knee jerk and would look to keep Dean over the long term as long as we show signs and given time to get things together
 

Edens sacked a manager who was his friend in a stronger position than we are right now because he thought they needed someone else to take the club on.

All along with Smith my argument has been that he'll have been given targets by the board and he's achieved them all, however I can see there being an 'after 10 games' target and I doubt it was to have lost 6 of those matches.

There's a lot of things I like about Smith, and I still think he'll prove to be the first manager we've had in years to leave the next guy with a squad they'll be mostly happy with, but I think he's pretty much done now, bad luck with injuries/covid will have played a part but that's true of almost every manager, it's just part of the job.

[Risso]

Agree totally Paul.

[Demitri_C]

Smiths pist match comments jesus . He is so deluded its unbelievable

[RamboandBruno]

I'm with Smith as he said it wasn't a 4-1 game and agreeing wasn't a 4-1 game
We and he had a lot of bad luck in that game and he made good changes to the team but it didn't totally work out
But of Watkins header had gone in at 2-2 would have been a different story
Similarly if there was no red card
Dean also said team showed character as well as that we scored a good goal so there are positives in a somewhat strange match
I be interested to see how we perform and the team we put out Friday before people get carried away as that result to me was unlucky

Bad luck is what happens when the wheels are coming off, games like today almost always happen to managers just before they get the boot.

To be fair that's often seems the way. And if such rotten luck continues and sliding into relegation zone then it's really tough
Though I don't see our owners as knee jerk and would look to keep Dean over the long term as long as we show signs and given time to get things together
 

Edens sacked a manager who was his friend in a stronger position than we are right now because he thought they needed someone else to take the club on.

All along with Smith my argument has been that he'll have been given targets by the board and he's achieved them all, however I can see there being an 'after 10 games' target and I doubt it was to have lost 6 of those matches.

There's a lot of things I like about Smith, and I still think he'll prove to be the first manager we've had in years to leave the next guy with a squad they'll be mostly happy with, but I think he's pretty much done now, bad luck with injuries/covid will have played a part but that's true of almost every manager, it's just part of the job.

Sadly i think this is probably about right. 6 out of 10, without having played Liverpool or Man City is too much. I thought there was a lot of heart out there for the best part of the second half after going down to 10 men until they got their 3rd, but even at 2-1 we never felt in control of the game. Interestingly the clamour for Smith to go on here doesn’t  feel widely shared in the Holte End at least, the crowd were anxious but mostly supportive of the team and havent turned on Smith yet. But something jas to happen quickly in order for us not to be mired in a relegation scrap all season.
Havent a clue who would take over if that decision is made

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

I wasn’t at VP today and didn’t see the match. I was glad Smith moved away from 3cbs, but I wasn’t expecting Mings to be on the bench. The players have let Smith down, but he also hasn’t helped himself (sticking with 3 cbs, losing a game with 10mins to go when we’re 2-0 up, not taking lessons learned into the Arses match, his inexplicable use of Young...).
Whatever some peoples’ opinions are of Smith (and some have been absolutely embarrassing including on H&V) sadly he has contributed to where we are now and perhaps losing 2 coaches in pre-season hasn’t helped him. IMO Purslow and Lange must also take responsibility for their parts in the summer recruitment process. Purslow’s comment about bringing in 3 players to replace Hwcbn was nonsense and Lange’s recruitment has left a lot to be desired. Everybody knew midfield needed addressing even with the unmentionable in the team, but nothing was done and this has left us very short in this department.
When apportioning blame the owners whilst looking understandably at Dean also need to look a little deeper because things don’t appear right behind the scene.

[Villatillidie1982]

I'm with Smith as he said it wasn't a 4-1 game and agreeing wasn't a 4-1 game
We and he had a lot of bad luck in that game and he made good changes to the team but it didn't totally work out
But of Watkins header had gone in at 2-2 would have been a different story
Similarly if there was no red card
Dean also said team showed character as well as that we scored a good goal so there are positives in a somewhat strange match
I be interested to see how we perform and the team we put out Friday before people get carried away as that result to me was unlucky

Bad luck is what happens when the wheels are coming off, games like today almost always happen to managers just before they get the boot.

To be fair that's often seems the way. And if such rotten luck continues and sliding into relegation zone then it's really tough
Though I don't see our owners as knee jerk and would look to keep Dean over the long term as long as we show signs and given time to get things together
 

Edens sacked a manager who was his friend in a stronger position than we are right now because he thought they needed someone else to take the club on.

All along with Smith my argument has been that he'll have been given targets by the board and he's achieved them all, however I can see there being an 'after 10 games' target and I doubt it was to have lost 6 of those matches.

There's a lot of things I like about Smith, and I still think he'll prove to be the first manager we've had in years to leave the next guy with a squad they'll be mostly happy with, but I think he's pretty much done now, bad luck with injuries/covid will have played a part but that's true of almost every manager, it's just part of the job.

Sadly i think this is probably about right. 6 out of 10, without having played Liverpool or Man City is too much. I thought there was a lot of heart out there for the best part of the second half after going down to 10 men until they got their 3rd, but even at 2-1 we never felt in control of the game. Interestingly the clamour for Smith to go on here doesn’t  feel widely shared in the Holte End at least, the crowd were anxious but mostly supportive of the team and havent turned on Smith yet. But something jas to happen quickly in order for us not to be mired in a relegation scrap all season.
Havent a clue who would take over if that decision is made

Steve Bruce is looking for work 😊. But so is Frank Lampard.

[Footy-Vill]

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1454892002038931458?s=20

Dean Smith
"These players aren't short of character.  There's certainly enough character and quality in dressing room to turn things around"

[Demitri_C]

Just read a stat. Smiths won 7 games in 29. How the hell is this man still in a job??

[Footy-Vill]

Just read a stat. Smiths won 7 games in 29. How the hell is this man still in a job??

The 6 losses out of 10 I would concede is a little more concerning but am still hopeful with Dean of turning around.

The longer period stat of this 7 wins 29 matches isn't really a fair context as that's over from last season which is completely different.
So not fair to comment or judge on that to me.

Judge him by this season.

[Three Spires Villa]

But it shows a downward trajectory from last Christmas, so you can take games and performances from last season, have things got better, worse or stayed the same?

[Ads]

Pull the trigger.

[Risso]

Just read a stat. Smiths won 7 games in 29. How the hell is this man still in a job??

The 6 losses out of 10 I would concede is a little more concerning but am still hopeful with Dean of turning around.

The longer period stat of this 7 wins 29 matches isn't really a fair context as that's over from last season which is completely different.
So not fair to comment or judge on that to me.

Judge him by this season.

OK. This season had been a disaster, sack him now.

[Ads]

A quarter of the way through, we're shipping goals for fun and we have morphed into a side when we attack that Pulis would have been proud of. We cannot defend, we're wretched on the midfield and we lack any structure. It's fucking appalling when you consider the money spent and the players available.

I want him to succeed, but these losing streaks haunt him and us. We cannot carry him and its time for him to go.