Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Duncan Shaw]

Over £26m spent on Yannick Bolasie plus his £3.9m a year wage (5 year contract) spent mainly on loan at other clubs. Eyewatering

Ross McCormack, Scott Hogan - not quite as much granted, but we all seem to have them!

[mr underhill]

yes our glasshouse is almost as big as theirs.

[Smithy]

I make that 16 players Everton have bought for over £20m in the last five years.  Over an entire side plus subs, with everyone over £20m.  We're still quite a long way away from that level...  I think we have three players over £20m in total?

Obviously that's "sort of" where we want to be, with the squad littered with players worth more than £20m, but I hope we develop a few of our own, rather than buying towards the top end of the market, like it seems Everton have.  But it also illustrates the size of the gap that we're trying to bridge.  They were spending £35m on Richarlison and £27m on Mina when our 'big' signings were Guilbert and Kalinic for £5m each.

We've done exceptionally well to become competitive in the premier league so quickly, but it's going to take some very clever moves in the transfer market to take us to a level above the likes of Everton.

[Percy McCarthy]

I make that 16 players Everton have bought for over £20m in the last five years.  Over an entire side plus subs, with everyone over £20m.  We're still quite a long way away from that level...  I think we have three players over £20m in total?

Obviously that's "sort of" where we want to be, with the squad littered with players worth more than £20m, but I hope we develop a few of our own, rather than buying towards the top end of the market, like it seems Everton have.  But it also illustrates the size of the gap that we're trying to bridge.  They were spending £35m on Richarlison and £27m on Mina when our 'big' signings were Guilbert and Kalinic for £5m each.

We've done exceptionally well to become competitive in the premier league so quickly, but it's going to take some very clever moves in the transfer market to take us to a level above the likes of Everton.

I’d say every player in our first choice XI is worth over £20m, some well over, with (maybe, depending on your opinion) a question mark over Bert. We’ve done some fantastic deals when you consider we’ve only paid over £20m three times. Also gives us scope to keep spending big and wisely.

[paul_e]

I make that 16 players Everton have bought for over £20m in the last five years.  Over an entire side plus subs, with everyone over £20m.  We're still quite a long way away from that level...  I think we have three players over £20m in total?

Obviously that's "sort of" where we want to be, with the squad littered with players worth more than £20m, but I hope we develop a few of our own, rather than buying towards the top end of the market, like it seems Everton have.  But it also illustrates the size of the gap that we're trying to bridge.  They were spending £35m on Richarlison and £27m on Mina when our 'big' signings were Guilbert and Kalinic for £5m each.

We've done exceptionally well to become competitive in the premier league so quickly, but it's going to take some very clever moves in the transfer market to take us to a level above the likes of Everton.

I’d say every player in our first choice XI is worth over £20m, some well over, with (maybe, depending on your opinion) a question mark over Bert. We’ve done some fantastic deals when you consider we’ve only paid over £20m three times. Also gives us scope to keep spending big and wisely.

I think getting to 10 is pretty easy (Martinez, Cash, Targett, Konsa, Mings, Luiz, McGinn, Grealish, Watkins and Bert). The final spot in tough, Wesley cost more but until he's fully recovered from his injury he's not worth it, Sanson hasn't settled in so his value is questionable, AEG probably not quite. After that I don't think anyone else comes close.

[Percy McCarthy]

I make that 16 players Everton have bought for over £20m in the last five years.  Over an entire side plus subs, with everyone over £20m.  We're still quite a long way away from that level...  I think we have three players over £20m in total?

Obviously that's "sort of" where we want to be, with the squad littered with players worth more than £20m, but I hope we develop a few of our own, rather than buying towards the top end of the market, like it seems Everton have.  But it also illustrates the size of the gap that we're trying to bridge.  They were spending £35m on Richarlison and £27m on Mina when our 'big' signings were Guilbert and Kalinic for £5m each.

We've done exceptionally well to become competitive in the premier league so quickly, but it's going to take some very clever moves in the transfer market to take us to a level above the likes of Everton.

I’d say every player in our first choice XI is worth over £20m, some well over, with (maybe, depending on your opinion) a question mark over Bert. We’ve done some fantastic deals when you consider we’ve only paid over £20m three times. Also gives us scope to keep spending big and wisely.

I think getting to 10 is pretty easy (Martinez, Cash, Targett, Konsa, Mings, Luiz, McGinn, Grealish, Watkins and Bert). The final spot in tough, Wesley cost more but until he's fully recovered from his injury he's not worth it, Sanson hasn't settled in so his value is questionable, AEG probably not quite. After that I don't think anyone else comes close.

Yes, you’re right, ten. In my head I put Jack in for AEG without thinking about the midfield. Some of the valuations among those ten have rocketed though.

[Smithy]

I agree about the value of all those players, and it's an indication of how well we've done in the transfer market that we've spent over £200m since we've been back in the premier league but the value of those players is probably now closer to £300m+.

But that sort of expenditure, buying £10-20m players and hoping we turn them into £20-30m players probably isn't enough to get us into the top 6, never mind the top 4.  We moved up 6 places last season, but the next 6 are going to be orders of magnitude more difficult.  I hope we'll be buying some players ready to contribute to that improvement from day 1, rather than just players at our current level that we hope will improve with us.

I'm happy to see us buying players who will improve, absolutely, and I hope that continues as a long-term strategy - but this summer I think it's important Dean has at least a couple of players who can come in and go straight into the first 11 AND improve it immediately.  And that's a big challenge, we're shopping at a level where the pool of players is much smaller, and the competition much more fierce.

[paul_e]

I agree about the value of all those players, and it's an indication of how well we've done in the transfer market that we've spent over £200m since we've been back in the premier league but the value of those players is probably now closer to £300m+.

But that sort of expenditure, buying £10-20m players and hoping we turn them into £20-30m players probably isn't enough to get us into the top 6, never mind the top 4.  We moved up 6 places last season, but the next 6 are going to be orders of magnitude more difficult.  I hope we'll be buying some players ready to contribute to that improvement from day 1, rather than just players at our current level that we hope will improve with us.

I'm happy to see us buying players who will improve, absolutely, and I hope that continues as a long-term strategy - but this summer I think it's important Dean has at least a couple of players who can come in and go straight into the first 11 AND improve it immediately.  And that's a big challenge, we're shopping at a level where the pool of players is much smaller, and the competition much more fierce.

I agree completely, that's why we need to look at areas where we can get the most improvement with good signings in the 30-40m range and then see if a few of the players who've already improved can make another step up.

[Percy McCarthy]

I agree about the value of all those players, and it's an indication of how well we've done in the transfer market that we've spent over £200m since we've been back in the premier league but the value of those players is probably now closer to £300m+.

But that sort of expenditure, buying £10-20m players and hoping we turn them into £20-30m players probably isn't enough to get us into the top 6, never mind the top 4.  We moved up 6 places last season, but the next 6 are going to be orders of magnitude more difficult.  I hope we'll be buying some players ready to contribute to that improvement from day 1, rather than just players at our current level that we hope will improve with us.

I'm happy to see us buying players who will improve, absolutely, and I hope that continues as a long-term strategy - but this summer I think it's important Dean has at least a couple of players who can come in and go straight into the first 11 AND improve it immediately.  And that's a big challenge, we're shopping at a level where the pool of players is much smaller, and the competition much more fierce.

Yes, spot on. As I said the other day, four top quality signings this summer will hopefully get us where we need to be to keep Jack. I think the time for gambling on unknowns is either at the same time as buying proven quality in several positions, or next summer.

[brontebilly]

Whilst we're talking about Everton, here's a reminder of what it can cost to come 10th with a supposedly world class manager at the helm...

20/21
Godfrey - £24.75m
Allan    - £22.50m
Doucouré   - £19.89m
Rodrigues - free but fucking massive wages

19/20
Alex Iwobi   - £27.36m
Moise Kean - £24.75m
Gbamin - £22.50m
André Gomes - £22.50m
Fabian Delph - £8.55m

18/19
Richarlison - £35.28m
Yerry Mina - £27.23m
Lucas Digne - £18.18m

17/18
Gylfi Sigurdsson    - £44.46m
Michael Keane - £25.65m
Jordan Pickford - £25.65m
Davy Klaassen - £24.30m
Cenk Tosun - £20.25m
Theo Walcott - £20.25m
Nikola Vlasic - £9.72m

16/17
Yannick Bolasie - £26.01m
Morgan Schneiderlin - £20.70m
Ashley Williams - £12.60m
Ademola Lookman - £7.92m
Idrissa Gueye - £7.65m

Thats c £525m over 5 years.

And yes, that really is over 27m for Iwobi.

They recouped big money for Lukaku, Stones etc, but even so the siums are eye watering.

A few coaches have had a go in that time, didn't they buy and sell Rooney in that time too?

Arsenal must love when Everton come in for their cast offs.

[eamonn]

I think we'd definitely get £20m for El Ghazi on the open market. His stats might hide the weaknesses in his game but he gets goalz.

[Mister E]

Deano speaks about our ambition in today's Grauniad online.

[sickbeggar]

Good interview that. Makes a good point about how much harder it is to get to the top 6 from mid-table, than from the relegation zone to mid-table

[john e]

Whilst we're talking about Everton, here's a reminder of what it can cost to come 10th with a supposedly world class manager at the helm...

20/21
Godfrey - £24.75m
Allan    - £22.50m
Doucouré   - £19.89m
Rodrigues - free but fucking massive wages

19/20
Alex Iwobi   - £27.36m
Moise Kean - £24.75m
Gbamin - £22.50m
André Gomes - £22.50m
Fabian Delph - £8.55m

18/19
Richarlison - £35.28m
Yerry Mina - £27.23m
Lucas Digne - £18.18m

17/18
Gylfi Sigurdsson    - £44.46m
Michael Keane - £25.65m
Jordan Pickford - £25.65m
Davy Klaassen - £24.30m
Cenk Tosun - £20.25m
Theo Walcott - £20.25m
Nikola Vlasic - £9.72m

16/17
Yannick Bolasie - £26.01m
Morgan Schneiderlin - £20.70m
Ashley Williams - £12.60m
Ademola Lookman - £7.92m
Idrissa Gueye - £7.65m

Thats c £525m over 5 years.

And yes, that really is over 27m for Iwobi.

They recouped big money for Lukaku, Stones etc, but even so the siums are eye watering.

Thanks for that
I never realised Everton had spent so much money I thought they were similar to us to be honest which Is still a lot but not in that league

Just shows how key the transfer market and buying the right players is to success really

[chrisw1]

In fairness they got £75m for Lukaku,  £50m for Stones, £27 for Gueye, £15m for Barkley, £16m for Lookman + a few others, whereas we haven't managed to recoup anything for anybody we've sold in the last few years.