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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11805 on: March 23, 2021, 10:45:35 PM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11806 on: March 23, 2021, 10:51:35 PM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

God forbid that anyone should disagree with you.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11807 on: March 24, 2021, 08:50:59 AM »
I've no idea why the past Bruce argument keeps being brought up anyway, it's tedious. People are questioning Smith, some are happy with the job he is doing but feel there is room for improvement (like me) and people are happy with him full stop. It's a simple as that really.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11808 on: March 24, 2021, 09:19:51 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

And even the slightest hint of something not going perfectly and you leap to criticise.

I'm giving reasons why I think it may be the case. I've suggested alternatives, like playing Davis centrally and that gets knocked back as Davis isn't good enough. Well he's the only other fit striker we have, and it's up top where changes generally need to be made to score goals.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11809 on: March 24, 2021, 09:21:53 AM »
So Sheffield Utd Fulham Southampton Newcastle Brighton etc have deeper squads,



And Olbiyon the same depth.

And they’re all below is in the league.

Quite!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11810 on: March 24, 2021, 09:31:11 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

I’m sure it’s not your intention but that reads like you want to tell us rather than discuss it.

We’re only in our second season in this division and so our squad is not as strong or deep, particularly in forward options, as we would like. It’s well documented how much rebuilding we had to do after promotion, largely as a result of the makeup of the squad Bruce and Xia left us with. Hopefully we will address that over forthcoming windows.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11811 on: March 24, 2021, 10:17:24 AM »
There wasn't really any excuse for not getting another forward in. Smith said he was happy with the squad they had way before the end of the transfer window, so it looks like it was a deliberate decision. And a bad one.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11812 on: March 24, 2021, 10:27:31 AM »
Maybe Traore was bought in to add to the striker role as well. It would be interesting to see him play it.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11813 on: March 24, 2021, 10:29:45 AM »
There wasn't really any excuse for not getting another forward in. Smith said he was happy with the squad they had way before the end of the transfer window, so it looks like it was a deliberate decision. And a bad one.

It's not that easy to get another decent striker in when you've got someone else that's clearly first choice, it's a perennial problem for Spurs it seems.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11814 on: March 24, 2021, 10:30:20 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

Comparing Bruce and Smith is ridiculous in itself anyway.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11815 on: March 24, 2021, 10:31:59 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

Comparing Bruce and Smith is ridiculous in itself anyway.

They're both male, and they were both centre halves. That's about it.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11816 on: March 24, 2021, 10:35:08 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

Comparing Bruce and Smith is ridiculous in itself anyway.
The comparison to Bruce is a simple one really. With the same players available to both in 2018/19 Bruce took us to 13th in the Championship. Dean Smith got us to 5th and promoted.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11817 on: March 24, 2021, 10:39:57 AM »
Crikey, a simple table shows how effective a manager is with subs. Smit is equal second worst.
We know he has gained 1 point from being a goal Down. We have seen that he does like for like subs to no effect.
 But somehow even the slightest suggestion that there might be a failing and the usual suspects rush in to his defence just like you did for Bruce.

Comparing Bruce and Smith is ridiculous in itself anyway.
The comparison to Bruce is a simple one really. With the same players available to both in 2018/19 Bruce took us to 13th in the Championship. Dean Smith got us to 5th and promoted.

Ding ding! The correct answer.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11818 on: March 24, 2021, 10:43:28 AM »
So Sheffield Utd Fulham Southampton Newcastle Brighton etc have deeper squads,



And Olbiyon the same depth.

Not so much deeper squads, but more that there isn't much difference between the quality of the starting 11 and those on the bench.

This could also be applied to the teams at the top of the table (subs and actual league table).

7 or 8 of our starting 11 are a class (or three) above the rest of the squad.  The bench is weak compared to the starting 11 so it's no surprise any changes dont usually make much difference.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #11819 on: March 24, 2021, 10:45:14 AM »
There wasn't really any excuse for not getting another forward in. Smith said he was happy with the squad they had way before the end of the transfer window, so it looks like it was a deliberate decision. And a bad one.

But it's not a lack of forwards that's at the heart of the slump is it?



 


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