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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10125 on: August 21, 2020, 08:49:05 PM »
Mine was a (long) link to the video version so you were just adding to life's rich pageant.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10126 on: August 21, 2020, 08:56:17 PM »
Great interview though.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10127 on: August 21, 2020, 09:44:39 PM »
Not a comment on DS but crikey, this xG stuff is a load of old horseshit.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10128 on: August 21, 2020, 09:49:54 PM »
Not a comment on DS but crikey, this xG stuff is a load of old horseshit.

I completely agree. I'm all for an increased use of analytics in football but expected goals is a nonsense.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10129 on: August 21, 2020, 09:52:27 PM »
It's just a measure of the chances you're creating/conceding, isn't it (unless I've misunderstood, which happens)? I can't see the problem if so.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10130 on: August 21, 2020, 09:56:48 PM »
Not a comment on DS but crikey, this xG stuff is a load of old horseshit.

Sounds like it played an important part in keeping spirits up when results could have led to resignation that we were going down.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10131 on: August 21, 2020, 09:58:35 PM »
It's not unfortunately. It's defined by Opta Sports as follows:
"Expected goals (xG) measures the quality of a shot based on several variables such as assist type, shot angle and distance from goal, whether it was a headed shot and whether it was defined as a big chance."

In other words, a whole load of bollocks, IMO.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10132 on: August 21, 2020, 10:05:16 PM »
I much prefer some level of analytics being employed these days instead of ‘we were excellent’ and ‘canon laaadds’ under lambert and Sherwood.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10133 on: August 21, 2020, 10:17:26 PM »
So do I, but I also think you need to be able to justify your methodology. It's not going to be useful in any applied sense unless it's grounded in reality.

It's the same as analytics in finance or industry - you can make data say anything you want really, but insights are only useful insofar as they're actionable. If they're just made up calculations for the sake of putting a percentage or other metric on a page/graph, then they're as good as useless.

Personally I don't see how xG helps Aston Villa in any way except to show how useless we are at scoring goals at the moment. Which any fucking eejit with a pair of eyes can see.

DS has used it in the context of "We may not be winning games but our expected goals has improved", but surely that just means you're creating chances that you can't finish. Which again....... see above.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10134 on: August 21, 2020, 10:27:37 PM »
Not a comment on DS but crikey, this xG stuff is a load of old horseshit.

Totally.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10135 on: August 21, 2020, 10:34:11 PM »
Well, it seems to have worked.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10136 on: August 21, 2020, 10:35:48 PM »
Well, it seems to have worked.

You could argue that the break due to the Covid19 pandemic was the major factor.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10137 on: August 21, 2020, 10:36:31 PM »
Wonder if xG was a factor for El Ghazi’s miss of the season at Everton?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10138 on: August 21, 2020, 10:37:14 PM »
xG= (Cc/10 x 2PgS) - (Mc.5-VAR)

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #10139 on: August 21, 2020, 10:39:37 PM »
Wonder if xG was a factor for El Ghazi’s miss of the season at Everton?

Hardly the miss of the season. See Sterling. Or did you mean for us? If so, the one by Davis was worse for me.

 


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