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Offline London Villan

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9885 on: July 26, 2020, 09:28:17 PM »
Edens and Swairis deserve a lot of credit too. Without them and a team of top notch accountants we’d be toast.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9886 on: July 26, 2020, 09:28:43 PM »
Without getting all I Know Something That You Don't, one day someone will write the story of just how deep we were in it during summer 2018. We'll never know how close we came to today being about celebrating promotion to the Championship.
I'd buy a copy if someone put it together

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9887 on: July 26, 2020, 09:28:59 PM »
I am a veteran Villa fan who on this forum. I have always been quick to back managers, and slow to call for their sacking.

Dean Smith did a very good job securing Villa promotion last season, he did it with the fifth best team in the Division.

He was totally inexperienced at PL level – that was a big risk.

His signings have been unimpressive. Yet you can never be sure whether they were his, or “The Board’s”, and he had to recruit in numbers. The Championship side would have finished bottom. When you do recruit in numbers chemistry is an unknown.

I think that retaining him is too big a risk, and it would be kinder to all if he left this summer with a promotion and creditable survival campaign on his CV. His reputation enhanced, and untarnished.


Who would you replace him with, though? I say keep him on. He deserves a chance to put right what went wrong this season having, hopefully, learned from his earlier mistakes and repeats/improves on the last four unbeaten games.
Managerial appointments are about what is going to happen next, not what has happened before.

I read little into the bizarre mini-season of BCD games.

On the downside, our club has had too many managers in too short a space of time and that has created problems of its own. Against that, I have seen little to suggest that he is a Santos or Dyche.

As for who I would replace him with, that is not my job. There are people who are paid a lot of money to identify those who will "fit" a club's requirements.

As it stands, will Smith outgun Bielsa and Leeds, or the Baggies and Bilic in the transfer market?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9888 on: July 26, 2020, 09:32:54 PM »
I am a veteran Villa fan who on this forum. I have always been quick to back managers, and slow to call for their sacking.

Dean Smith did a very good job securing Villa promotion last season, he did it with the fifth best team in the Division.

He was totally inexperienced at PL level – that was a big risk.

His signings have been unimpressive. Yet you can never be sure whether they were his, or “The Board’s”, and he had to recruit in numbers. The Championship side would have finished bottom. When you do recruit in numbers chemistry is an unknown.

I think that retaining him is too big a risk, and it would be kinder to all if he left this summer with a promotion and creditable survival campaign on his CV. His reputation enhanced, and untarnished.


Who would you replace him with, though? I say keep him on. He deserves a chance to put right what went wrong this season having, hopefully, learned from his earlier mistakes and repeats/improves on the last four unbeaten games.
Managerial appointments are about what is going to happen next, not what has happened before.

I read little into the bizarre mini-season of BCD games.

On the downside, our club has had too many managers in too short a space of time and that has created problems of its own. Against that, I have seen little to suggest that he is a Santos or Dyche.

As for who I would replace him with, that is not my job. There are people who are paid a lot of money to identify those who will "fit" a club's requirements.

As it stands, will Smith outgun Bielsa and Leeds, or the Baggies and Bilic in the transfer market?

Can you give one reason why not? People talk about Bielsa like he's some managerial genius, but it's took him two years to do what Dean Smith did in seven months.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9889 on: July 26, 2020, 09:38:11 PM »
Can you give one reason why not? People talk about Bielsa like he's some managerial genius, but it's took him two years to do what Dean Smith did in seven months.
Managerial genius isn't wholly measured by 'how does he match up to Dean Smith?'.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9890 on: July 26, 2020, 09:40:36 PM »
Can you give one reason why not? People talk about Bielsa like he's some managerial genius, but it's took him two years to do what Dean Smith did in seven months.
Managerial genius isn't wholly measured by 'how does he match up to Dean Smith?'.

Then it's a good job nobody ever said it does, isn't it? But what someone had done, and this is why I was mentioning them both, was to make a comparison between him and Bielsa in the post I was answering.



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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9891 on: July 26, 2020, 09:41:39 PM »
Biesla had a fair body of work behind him even before matching Smudger's achievement this year.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9892 on: July 26, 2020, 09:41:51 PM »
I saw his interview after today’s game.
If ever there was an example of, I took what we had and we did it anyway, that was it.
I’m in awe.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9893 on: July 26, 2020, 09:43:41 PM »
There’s a story floating tonight that we are going to appoint Bruno Lage as Head Coach.  No me neither.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9894 on: July 26, 2020, 09:44:08 PM »
Then it's a good job nobody ever said it does, isn't it? But what someone had done, and this is why I was mentioning them both, was to make a comparison between him and Bielsa in the post I was answering.
It's fair to say that Bielsa's career to date is superior to Dean's.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9895 on: July 26, 2020, 09:44:21 PM »
I like Dean Smith and I think he'll be OK as long as he's given the tools to do the job. If - and it's admittedly a huge 'if' - Jack can be persuaded to stay and sensible signings are made, I'd let him at least start the next season. Otherwise, we'll be trying to rebuild (again) AND trying to stay up and I think both would be beyond him. It was nearly beyond him this year.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9896 on: July 26, 2020, 09:48:04 PM »
Then it's a good job nobody ever said it does, isn't it? But what someone had done, and this is why I was mentioning them both, was to make a comparison between him and Bielsa in the post I was answering.
It's fair to say that Bielsa's career to date is superior to Dean's.

It's also fair to say that I couldn't give a fuck.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9897 on: July 26, 2020, 09:49:35 PM »
Smith is at the start of his. Bielsa is near the end.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9898 on: July 26, 2020, 09:50:28 PM »
So now the season is over we obtained our points as follows:
For teams 1st to 7th. 14 games played. Zero points at home. One point away. Total of ONE point.
8th to 14th. 14 games played.  14 points at home. 5 points away. Total of NINETEEN points.
And 15th to 20th. 10 games played.  10 points at home. 5 points away. Total of FIFTEEN points.

Its as clear as day that we need a few more points off the top teams.


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #9899 on: July 26, 2020, 09:50:49 PM »
There’s a story floating tonight that we are going to appoint Bruno Lage as Head Coach.  No me neither.

I've just read the same story, it's in the Daily Express so I'd file under 'complete shite'.  We replace Dean Smith with a guy no-one has heard of?  I can't see it.

 


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