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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8340 on: June 29, 2020, 03:20:48 PM »
Breaking: football fans proven optimistic after playoff victory.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8341 on: June 29, 2020, 03:22:08 PM »
Breaking: football fans proven optomistic after playoff victory.
That would have been the 'optimistic expectations' thread rather than the 'realistic expectations' thread.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8342 on: June 29, 2020, 03:43:52 PM »
Looking at the run ins its clearly going to be tight. I would forecast that going into the last game Watford and Bournemouth will have 34 points and Wham and AV 33 with AV having the worse goal diff. Its going down to the last day unless we can pull a surprise somewhere. I think we will have to beat Wham and then rely on Arse or Everton to do us a favour

Watford 28pts 6 to play
Chel(a)  Norw(h)  Newcle (h)   Wham (a)   ManCity (h)   Arse  (a)

WestHam  27 pts  7 to play
Chel(h)  Newcle(a)  Burn(h)  Norw(a)  Watford(h)   MU(a)  AV(h)

AFCB  27 points  7 to play
Newcl(h)  MU(a)  Spurs(h)  Leic(h)  ManCity(a)  Soton(h)  Ev(a)

AV  27 points  6 to play
Liv(a)  MU(h)  CP(h)  Ev(a)  Arse(h)  Wham(a)

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8343 on: June 29, 2020, 03:45:18 PM »
Despite the obvious fact that we are crap, we’re not actually down yet and the teams around us, including Pearson’s Watford, that is Pearson who lots were raving about when he took over their, are just as crap. Watford may have had a spectacular win over Liverpool but its the only win they’ve had in 10, that’s how long their new manager bounce has lasted. If after Liverpool and Man Utd, we are 3 or 4 points behind Bournemouth, West Ham and Watford then I think we are gone, if it’s 1 or 2 points and we have palace, Everton, arsenal and West Ham to play, then it’s all to play for.

And Dyche, I like Sean Dyche and his growl, but the irony that he got relegated with Burnley and they stuck with him, seems to have by passed a lot of Smith outers on here.We’re they heralded for then barnstorming football the year they last went down?
I’m almost past caring whether smith stays or goes, I’ve not enjoyed a game since Watford in January and that nearly gave me a heart attack. What I do know is, a lot of supporters would of realistically took 17th as an achievement this season after the way we came up and the rushed squad rebuild. Coming 17th invariably means you lose a lot of games, but this seems to have by passed a lot of people. However shite we are, and we are really hard to watch at the moment, coming 17th is not exactly the impossible given we’re on the same points as Bournemouth and West Ham and one behind Watford.
If the internet had existed in April and May 1989, it would of been interesting to see if SGT would of been getting this vitriol, as his Villa escaped an immediate return to Div 1 as it was,  by 1 point with a 1-1 draw with Cov on last day of the season. Just saying like.

excellent post
Although, according to the poll on here, 98.4% of H&Vers thought - realistically - we'd finish 17th or higher.  45% thought we'd finish 12th or higher.

43.6% of voters voted for Boris Johnson. It's fair to say that a large number of people are utterly deluded.

I think I said we'd finish top six.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8344 on: June 29, 2020, 03:46:12 PM »
Looking at the run ins its clearly going to be tight. I would forecast that going into the last game Watford and Bournemouth will have 34 points and Wham and AV 33 with AV having the worse goal diff. Its going down to the last day unless we can pull a surprise somewhere. I think we will have to beat Wham and then rely on Arse or Everton to do us a favour

Just curious, where are our 6 points coming from before the West Ham game?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8345 on: June 29, 2020, 03:48:47 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8346 on: June 29, 2020, 03:57:37 PM »
43.6% of voters voted for Boris Johnson. It's fair to say that a large number of people are utterly deluded.

I think I said we'd finish top six.
I was just rereading it actually and even allowing for pre-season optimism there's some delusional stuff on there.  Someone even said that our lack of experience would be an advantage.  Of course anything we post on here is a hostage to fortune - and I'm as guilty of that as anyone - but expectations were being revised after 2 games. 

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8347 on: June 29, 2020, 04:00:51 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

How did Liverpool supporters get what they deserve?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8348 on: June 29, 2020, 04:08:13 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

How did Liverpool supporters get what they deserve?

30 years of hurt..............................................................

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8349 on: June 29, 2020, 04:16:20 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

How did Liverpool supporters get what they deserve?

30 years of hurt..............................................................
as opposed to 63 years of hurt

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8350 on: June 29, 2020, 04:31:41 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

How did Liverpool supporters get what they deserve?

They stuck by their boys during the dark days of Fa Cup and Champions League wins.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8351 on: June 29, 2020, 04:33:05 PM »
Although, according to the poll on here, 98.4% of H&Vers thought - realistically - we'd finish 17th or higher.  45% thought we'd finish 12th or higher.

I was convinced we'd finish 12th but how was I to know we'd play all season without a recognised striker or any half decent wingers. Biggest shock however has been our defence, an area I thought be were well prepared for. I never thought we'd end up having the worse defence in the league.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8352 on: June 29, 2020, 04:47:14 PM »
28.5% of those entitled to vote voted for Johnson.  You get the government you deserve you get the football club you deserve.

How did Liverpool supporters get what they deserve?

They stuck by their boys during the dark days of Fa Cup and Champions League wins.

Didn't they also suffer the hurt of finishing a lowly 5th one season , dark times for them ....

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8353 on: June 29, 2020, 04:47:48 PM »
There's no reason at all that finishing around 12th should have been beyond us.  Everybody from say, Burnley in 11th down is eminently beatable, and it's really just down to shit scouting, and even shitter coaching that we are where we are. 

Burnley's midfield this season has mostly been Ashley Westwood, Jack Cork, Jeff Hendrick and Dwight McNeil.  Pretty bloody ordinary by anybody's standards, but coached into an effective unit by Dyche.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8354 on: June 29, 2020, 05:12:14 PM »
I'm glad to see a properly coached Ashley Westwood has been promoted to pretty bloody ordinary. I told you he was alright.

Actually, pro-Westwood baiting aside, it's interesting that he's in a more effective midfield than ours which includes a Brazilian international, Super John McGinn and someone widely regarded as our best young player since probably Gary Shaw. Christ we've wasted some opportunities over the years with our short-term, shit or bust approach. It's scary to see names associated with our utterly shite last decade doing perfectly well in the Premier League.

 


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