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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8235 on: June 28, 2020, 02:52:25 PM »
Continuity of what? Failure?

Quite. Ever since Ferguson was on the brink at Manure and turned it round there’s this logic jump that giving someone time will bear out positively. That may be true in some cases, but it’s absolutely the worst thing you can do when you have the wrong man. Sadly Dean is not up to it and that’s not going to change.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8236 on: June 28, 2020, 02:55:58 PM »
Dyche?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8237 on: June 28, 2020, 02:59:45 PM »
Yes but what has Dyche actually achieved other than keeping them in the top division?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8238 on: June 28, 2020, 03:01:43 PM »
Dyche?
An upgrade on Dean but not sufficiently different to him.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8239 on: June 28, 2020, 03:11:26 PM »
We either do it now and get a new man or we give him the chance of getting us back up.

Given how short this summer is going to be and how we are going to lose some players, to then add into the mix a new manager/the needed recruitment/no proper pre season. A LOT to do. Therefore Smith stays for continuity

Continuity is the last thing we need. We need to get better, not continue to be shit. Get him out now.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8240 on: June 28, 2020, 04:07:35 PM »
He's shown he is not a premier league manager so he's on borrowed time anyway. We go down and he gets us promoted again, he's ditched. We go down and we falter, he's ditched.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8241 on: June 28, 2020, 04:17:14 PM »
Dyche?
An upgrade on Dean but not sufficiently different to him.

Promoted twice once as winners once as runners up scoring 93 points both times

Kept Burnley safe in league with a team including the footballing talent of ex Villa players Bardsley , Lowton and Westwood and has on occasion managed to beat top sides.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8242 on: June 28, 2020, 04:18:53 PM »
Dyche?
An upgrade on Dean but not sufficiently different to him.

Promoted twice once as winners once as runners up scoring 93 points both times

Kept Burnley safe in league with a team including the footballing talent of ex Villa players Bardsley , Lowton and Westwood and has on occasion managed to beat top sides.

The Dyche family home is in Northampton as well, so you'd think a move to the Midlands would make life a lot easier for him.

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8243 on: June 28, 2020, 04:28:13 PM »
Dyche?
An upgrade on Dean but not sufficiently different to him.

Promoted twice once as winners once as runners up scoring 93 points both times

Kept Burnley safe in league with a team including the footballing talent of ex Villa players Bardsley , Lowton and Westwood and has on occasion managed to beat top sides.

Absolutely, this is how I see it. Dyche would stabilise us and then allow a better manager to take us forward. Getting Villa back to where we won’t to be won’t be easy or a simple fix. The next manager is a stepping stone and I can’t think of a better manager than Dyche to achieve this.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8244 on: June 28, 2020, 04:32:40 PM »
Yes but what has Dyche actually achieved other than keeping them in the top division?

That would do for a few seasons so we can establish a foundation before making the "next step".

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8245 on: June 28, 2020, 04:35:30 PM »
I think Dyche would have spent our pre season treasure chest better than Smith did. I think he would have got more out of the players too, even if he had our current squad.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8246 on: June 28, 2020, 04:36:43 PM »
It is a bit unfair on Dyche to suggest he would be a stop gap. Burnley hardly ever spend any money so we have no idea what he could achieve with decent transfer funds.

The problem is, we are in all likelihood going to be in the championship next season, so I can’t imagine he would fancy it.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8247 on: June 28, 2020, 04:38:59 PM »
Dyche?
An upgrade on Dean but not sufficiently different to him.

Promoted twice once as winners once as runners up scoring 93 points both times

Kept Burnley safe in league with a team including the footballing talent of ex Villa players Bardsley , Lowton and Westwood and has on occasion managed to beat top sides.
As I say, an upgrade on Dean Smith.  Not my choice though.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8248 on: June 28, 2020, 04:49:16 PM »
I normally get to a point with managers where I stop caring whether they stay or not. I am at this point with Dean. I wouldn't say I am particularly clamouring for him to get sacked but he can't have any complaints if he does. I think even if he keeps us up then an upgrade is required. Although if we do pull it out of the bag from here the initial euphoria of doing so might make me think he's great again.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8249 on: June 28, 2020, 05:02:55 PM »
I’m really surprised anyone would turn their nose up at Dyche. It must be recently bias because what he’s done with Burnley puts him leagues ahead of Smith and all our managers post Houllier.

 


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