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Offline Richard E

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8205 on: June 28, 2020, 09:30:25 AM »
If Dean Smith was a lifelong fan of eg Colchester United there’d be a lot less people banging the drum for him to keep his job.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8206 on: June 28, 2020, 09:50:36 AM »
I don’t think there’s many banging the drum for him to stay because it’s pretty obvious that it’s not working

but the fact that he is Villa man through and through means that although we think it might be best for him to go we struggle to damn him to heavily out of respect for who he is and what he’s done for us

well that’s where I am anyway

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8207 on: June 28, 2020, 09:55:55 AM »
If Dean Smith was a lifelong fan of eg Colchester United there’d be a lot less people banging the drum for him to keep his job.
You are obviously invoking the law of large numbers here.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8208 on: June 28, 2020, 09:56:48 AM »
Sadly the Club seem to have accepted Dean will take us down.

It's strange to prefer relegation to changing manager. I imagine for other football fans looking in, they're thinking how come Dean Smith is still there. It's not normal behaviour is it.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8209 on: June 28, 2020, 09:58:21 AM »
Agree with you john e. It's like putting up with a member of the family who has been less than good recently. Can you imagine the vitriol if we were in this situation with Bruce?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8210 on: June 28, 2020, 10:00:18 AM »
I don’t think there’s many banging the drum for him to stay because it’s pretty obvious that it’s not working

but the fact that he is Villa man through and through means that although we think it might be best for him to go we struggle to damn him to heavily out of respect for who he is and what he’s done for us

well that’s where I am anyway


I think that's about right. If the club think it's time for a change, then so be it but personally he'll go with my thanks for getting us up and there'll be no animosity from me whatsoever. Other people are starting to hate him and I don't get that.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8211 on: June 28, 2020, 10:23:46 AM »
I don’t think there’s many banging the drum for him to stay because it’s pretty obvious that it’s not working

but the fact that he is Villa man through and through means that although we think it might be best for him to go we struggle to damn him to heavily out of respect for who he is and what he’s done for us

well that’s where I am anyway


I think that's about right. If the club think it's time for a change, then so be it but personally he'll go with my thanks for getting us up and there'll be no animosity from me whatsoever. Other people are starting to hate him and I don't get that.

Agree with this completely

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8212 on: June 28, 2020, 10:31:28 AM »
Hate is too strong a word, but I dislike all Villa managers when they start doing really badly, lose the plot and start blaming the players, the fixtures and everything and everyone around them.  Smith is just the latest in a long line of dismal flops.  You'd think that by the simple law of averages we'd be due a decent manager at some point, but no.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8213 on: June 28, 2020, 10:35:29 AM »
Agree with you john e. It's like putting up with a member of the family who has been less than good recently. Can you imagine the vitriol if we were in this situation with Bruce?

In a alternative time line where we beat Fulham in the play off  , we go up and spend 140 mil with Bruce and play and have the results we have had zero people would be backing him and zero people would be saying if we go down stick with him as he knows the championship and will get us back up.



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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8214 on: June 28, 2020, 10:40:55 AM »
Agree with you john e. It's like putting up with a member of the family who has been less than good recently. Can you imagine the vitriol if we were in this situation with Bruce?

In a alternative time line where we beat Fulham in the play off  , we go up and spend 140 mil with Bruce and play and have the results we have had zero people would be backing him and zero people would be saying if we go down stick with him as he knows the championship and will get us back up.




Exactly.  It's entirely because he's a Villa fan that he gets any leeway at all.  Doesn't wash with me I'm afraid.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8215 on: June 28, 2020, 10:42:04 AM »
I don’t think there’s many banging the drum for him to stay because it’s pretty obvious that it’s not working

but the fact that he is Villa man through and through means that although we think it might be best for him to go we struggle to damn him to heavily out of respect for who he is and what he’s done for us

well that’s where I am anyway


I think that's about right. If the club think it's time for a change, then so be it but personally he'll go with my thanks for getting us up and there'll be no animosity from me whatsoever. Other people are starting to hate him and I don't get that.

Agree with this completely
Yep, Unfortunately I have to agree John, also without trying to sound arrogant, but maybe it’s a job too big for him. Somethings not right.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8216 on: June 28, 2020, 10:45:12 AM »
Hate is too strong a word, but I dislike all Villa managers when they start doing really badly, lose the plot and start blaming the players, the fixtures and everything and everyone around them.  Smith is just the latest in a long line of dismal flops.  You'd think that by the simple law of averages we'd be due a decent manager at some point, but no.

Old Chinese proverb.

When you keep fishing in the toilet, don't be surprised if you hook a Mcleish.

We simply have to aim higher, if we mean business throw our weight around. If we don't stop bullshitting about we're going to do this and that and then sign half a team from a Belgian midtable side, Wolves eighth choice center back and swap players with the Rags.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8217 on: June 28, 2020, 10:47:41 AM »
Can we abandon the idea that it's too late and that we're down? We're in the bottom three on goal difference.

Liverpool have just won the league so we don't know how how that will go, and Man Utd are made of jizz and fag ash so the same.

The one idea I cling to is Slumberland's end of seaon miracle a few years back under ... Poyet? (they've had so many managers it's hard to keep track).

They looked dead and gone in April, yet beat Chelsea and Yanited and drew with Citeh to stay up.

Four points  from the next two (would be typical to beat Yanited with no soul in the ground to enjoy it) wins against Palarse home and Wham away will see us reet.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8218 on: June 28, 2020, 10:48:06 AM »
I wonder if Dean has a point about the fixtures, they do seem a bit erratic. Liverpool played Palace on Wednesday and now don't play again until this Thursday when they have two games in four days. Ours was the only game yesterday and they could have played that today as we both don't play again until next weekend.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8219 on: June 28, 2020, 10:58:21 AM »
I don’t think there’s many banging the drum for him to stay because it’s pretty obvious that it’s not working

but the fact that he is Villa man through and through means that although we think it might be best for him to go we struggle to damn him to heavily out of respect for who he is and what he’s done for us

well that’s where I am anyway


I think that's about right. If the club think it's time for a change, then so be it but personally he'll go with my thanks for getting us up and there'll be no animosity from me whatsoever. Other people are starting to hate him and I don't get that.

Agree with this completely
Same here, I really wanted him to do well and was at VP when he walked out as Villa manager.
He did a great job last season and he is not solely responsible for this season but his biggest failing has been down to game management and that will ultimately cost us our place in the PL and him his job.

 


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