Dean Smith - Confirmed

[ChicagoLion]

If we are never going to attract the right players or managers or whatever then what is the fucking point.
I hope and believe our owners do not think the same way.
If we want to be a big club then at some point we need to start acting like one.

[Sexual Ealing]

Sean Dyche would be the most 'Aston Villa' appointment I could think of. Not in a good way (although we'd be better off than we are now).

[ChicagoLion]

It’s the sort of appointment that would say,, we can get, stay in the PL on a low budget.

Which is a bit different to the comments made by this board and why I think it’s bollocks,

[AsTallAsLions]

I'm not interested in manager speculation at this stage. It's obvious nothing will happen until the "summer" at this point, and I honestly doubt the owners have the balls at this point to sack Smith. They (stupidly) gave him a new deal months ago, but still should have sacked him already for the good of the club if they were going to do so. I think they, and Purslow, see Smith's championship pedigree as important if we go down.

Aside from that, even if they do pull the trigger, it seems pointless speculation to decide that Dyche or other would be a good or bad appointment before we see what he would do with us.

We all (vast majority anyway) thought Smith was the answer to our problems, no questions asked, and that even if he didn't succeed in getting us up, he would bring an exciting and dynamic style of play with him. Well he got us up, but that was about the sum of it, and now here we are debating who should replace him.

[Sexual Ealing]

You used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing there.

[Three Spires Villa]

If we stay up and if a manager, such as Sean Dyche cane and we finished 14-10th for two seasons, and then a bigger “name” was employed, and we then pushed on, what’s the issue with that. Of course it is all hypothetical

[Villan82]

If we stay up and if a manager, such as Sean Dyche cane and we finished 14-10th for two seasons, and then a bigger “name” was employed, and we then pushed on, what’s the issue with that. Of course it is all hypothetical

This. Villa needs a few years of stability. It's been a very long time.

[tomd2103]

If we stay up and if a manager, such as Sean Dyche cane and we finished 14-10th for two seasons, and then a bigger “name” was employed, and we then pushed on, what’s the issue with that. Of course it is all hypothetical

If we do somehow manage to stay up, then I think he will have just about deserved the chance to improve on things next season, although it would be a very short window of opportunity I would think. 

The thought of relegation and the total rebuild that would be required is just a horrible thought really, so I've not even been able to contemplate what would happen in that eventuality,

[Three Spires Villa]

If we stay up and if a manager, such as Sean Dyche cane and we finished 14-10th for two seasons, and then a bigger “name” was employed, and we then pushed on, what’s the issue with that. Of course it is all hypothetical

If we do somehow manage to stay up, then I think he will have just about deserved the chance to improve on things next season, although it would be a very short window of opportunity I would think. 

The thought of relegation and the total rebuild that would be required is just a horrible thought really, so I've not even been able to contemplate what would happen in that eventuality,

That’s fair enough, tbh my post was / is about people being against a Sean Dyche type of appointment. As I have said I don’t understand that opinion, but it’s an opinion and fine. I don’t see how we attract a big named manager who plays amazing football, where we are and the FFP that could stop some players coming. I think we need to build from a strong base of experience and that could be Sean. Of course my argument has problems because Bruce should have been that. For what it’s worth I think that Dean should go if we stop up or go down. The whole thing with inexperienced manager, players and coaches has been a problem.

[Des Little]

I honestly think there should (and will be) a number the managerial set up heading out of the exit this summer, regardless of the outcome - and not necessarily Deano. There’s definitely something not right, and that needs addressing.

[AsTallAsLions]

You used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing there.

At least I tried. You use very few words to needlessly criticise people on here on a regular basis, so perhaps we balance each other out for effort and impact.

[Sexual Ealing]

You used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing there.

At least I tried. You use very few words to needlessly criticise people on here on a regular basis, so perhaps we balance each other out for effort and impact.

I'm the Yin to your Yap.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sean Dyche would be the most 'Aston Villa' appointment I could think of. Not in a good way (although we'd be better off than we are now).

His career would end here. His next appointment would be at Reading or Albion, some nothing shit club.

[Sexual Ealing]

Sean Dyche would be the most 'Aston Villa' appointment I could think of. Not in a good way (although we'd be better off than we are now).

His career would end here. His next appointment would be at Reading or Albion, some nothing shit club.

Absolutely. We seem to have a deal with the scrapyard. They give us players, we send them broken managers.

[SoccerHQ]

He's done a good job for them but I'd like to see us break the habit of a lifetime and make a real go of appointing someone of real pedigree, someone to make us think 'Wow they really do mean business.'

Because at the moment that “wow” manager probably wouldn’t come to us.

Depends where we are in a month. If we stay in the premier league then we're still an attractive prospect given what we spent last summer and we get 40k through the gates.

As said Bielsa went to Leeds when they were mid table in the championship.

Nuno went to Wolves in a similar position.

Benitez went to Newcastle when they were about to get relegated but liked what he saw and stayed on.

Ancelotti went to Everton when they were barely above the relegation zone (think we might've been above them at the time).

Our next appointment after DS (whenever that is) is when we'll see the mettle of these owners I think and whether they have a more ambitious mindset than what Lerner and Xia had with their managerial appointments.

Plenty of good managers out of work who've managed in champions league and won trophies in last 3-4 seasons.